TMT is not maniaplanet :!: Perhaps some people who like TMT will later switch to maniaplanet because the possibilities are more here (and if they don't prefer the new Turbo visuals), but this can never be garanteed. If you like it, then purchase it, take profit of the current summer sales (e.g on S...

Why don't you try it out yourself? Although Stadium has free multiplayer demo until September (or perhaps even longer, until TMT gets released), also Canyon and Valley are in demo mode for the first 48h, and then only 1 or 2h gameplay each day. I have tried it - I said in my OP. I like it. But I do...

I wouldn't say nobody plays Valley typically there is 1 or 2 active servers all day. Turbo will have Valley and Canyon and also Stadium and Lagoon but it will be "different experience" than maniaplanet. If you like playing the Solo Maps then i would say it is worth. If you only want to pl...

Yo, So when Valley came out I wrote a post saying how annoyed I was that Nadeo seemingly broke their promise that TM2 canyon would receive other updates for free. Myself and probably many other players were under the impression that the long awaited Trackmania 2 would release with 1 environment firs...

Hylis, you make some very good points and I respect you for that. I'm still disappointed that Valley costs 20 euros, as the complaints I have seen regarding handling and visual effects don't seem to warrant such a price. Regardless, as a TM2 Canyon launch customer (And avid Nations player in the pas...

There's no evidence of that. Ubisoft is a rich studio. The user interface of TM2 is lifted off TM Nations / United already so that's some part of the budget already done for free! Yes of course the UI is the longest part of the development :teub: A lot of new features and improvements of old featur...

I was lead to believe that I was buying the entire Trackmania 2, not just a single environment it was never said so, NEVER. underdeveloped skin pack. stop saying this phrase, it's just wrong. I recall someone official saying TM2 would be "pay and stay" or something. Where all customisatio...

No, I believe a sensible model would be 20 euros for the original TM2 Canyon (which I was lead to believe was the full TM2 game, complete with these updates, as Nadeo CEO stated once) and then between 5 to 8 euros per pack thereafter. Canyon is actually a full game, as Stadium and Valley are. You c...

zarexz wrote:Valley alone is worth €50,- but you have to buy it to discover that.

I'm not sure that a game with terrible input issues (as described above you) is worth 50 euros.

I'm confident that if the price was lower for what is essentially a piece of DLC, an 'environment', then more people would buy it. As it stands, meh! So what ? Would you prefer ManiaPlanet alone for 50€, then each environment for 5€ ?.... No, I believe a sensible model would be 20 euros for the...