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Re: CMlScriptIngame::Page::MainFrame

Post by steeffeen » 12 Jul 2017, 09:18

Hi noyranea,

Thanks for the response.
I don't want to use a dedicated root frame mainly because of two reasons:

1. I provide a generic manialink framework that I wanted to enhance with such toggle feature without requiring the consumer to change their manialink elements.

2. Manialinks may contain several elements on root level right now and each of them has its own z-index. If I inject a root frame all these elements would inherit the z-index of the frame which messes up the layering. (This would be solved if it would be possible to somehow disable the new z-indexing of manialink v3 for a frame.)
The manialinks would need to be adjusted or split to use proper z-indexes.

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    Re: CMlScriptIngame::Page::MainFrame

    Post by zocka » 12 Jul 2017, 14:52

    1. You just render the surrounding frame with the manialink. Noone would be required to change their ML structure.
    Only thing to consider are elements which (at least used to) require being placed at root level (dico, stylesheet, audio?, maybe more?), but you could just put most controls into an internal main frame based on their type.

    2. Currently the z-index is relative to the single virtual-ish MainFrame so I don't see how this would change when they are relative to an actual control.
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    Re: CMlScriptIngame::Page::MainFrame

    Post by steeffeen » 12 Jul 2017, 15:27

    zocka wrote:
    12 Jul 2017, 14:52
    {...]
    1. I did that as a test and it was indeed no problem. However, I don't know what kind of scripts the consumers may write and forcing some arbitrary frame on them could mess up their manialinks. (Actually audio is a usual control.)

    2. Well it doesn't look like the virtual main frame is considered regarding the z-index because it's possible to set a control z-index high enough so that it's in front of default elements or low enough so that it's behind default elements. This wouldn't be possible anymore with a custom main frame that has z-index 0 (as an example). The manialink creator would need to explicitly set the main frame's z-index to some value that fits his requirements. Looking at the example of different controls in front AND behind of default elements, this wouldn't be feasible.
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      Re: CMlScriptIngame::Page::MainFrame

      Post by steeffeen » 12 Jul 2017, 15:32

      steeffeen wrote:
      12 Jul 2017, 15:27
      [...]
      What i'm asking me right now: How does the frame z-index layering work in detail? Could it be that a z-index of 0 shouldn't be considered at all?
      How I understand the new z-index layering is that a frame's z-index is considered before a child's z-index. if the frame has z-index 0, does that mean that only the child's z-index matters?

      Seems like I need to do some more tests :)
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        Re: CMlScriptIngame::Page::MainFrame

        Post by steeffeen » 19 Jul 2017, 19:48

        alright i did some testing and i can confirm that a container frame messes up the z-indexes of all the contained elements

        example:

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        <manialink id="id" version="3" name="id">
            <frame pos="-5 -5">
                <quad z-index="20" size="20 20" bgcolor="f00"/>
            </frame>
            <frame z-index="5">
                <quad z-index="10" size="20 20" bgcolor="0f0"/>
            </frame>
            <frame pos="5 5" z-index="10">
                <quad size="20 20" bgcolor="00f"/>
            </frame>
        </manialink>
        here we see a red quad with z-index=20 which is contained in a frame with z-index=0
        -> this is a dummy container frame containing some content

        the other two green and blue quads have z-indexes of 10 and 0 but are still in front of the red quad because they are contained in frames with z-indexes 5 and 10
        -> these are elements representing other content that the red quad is supposed to overlay

        conclusion:
        if we put a container frame around all elements, these elements inherit the z-index of the container frame so that their own z-indexes don't matter enough making it an incompatible change
        therefore that's no solution
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          Re: CMlScriptIngame::Page::MainFrame

          Post by reaby » 19 Jul 2017, 20:47

          I think you got it wrong.... I think this is what noyranea had in mind.

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          <manialink id="id" version="3" name="id">
          <frame id="MainContainer">    
                    <quad z-index="20" size="20 20" bgcolor="f00"/>
                    <quad z-index="10" size="20 20" bgcolor="0f0"/>
                    <quad size="20 20" bgcolor="00f"/>
          </frame>
          </manialink>
          
          then check the visibility of the MainContainer.. If I'm not totally wrong...

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          Re: CMlScriptIngame::Page::MainFrame

          Post by steeffeen » 20 Jul 2017, 07:51

          as I tried to explain the other elements not contained in the first frame are supposed to represent some other content of other manialinks

          maybe this makes it more clear:

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          <manialink id="id" version="3" name="id">
              <frame id="MainFrame" pos="-5 -5">
                  <quad z-index="20" size="20 20" bgcolor="f00"/>
              </frame>
              <frame id="Scoreboard" z-index="5">
                  <quad z-index="10" size="20 20" bgcolor="0f0"/>
              </frame>
              <frame id="Minimap" pos="5 5" z-index="10">
                  <quad size="20 20" bgcolor="00f"/>
              </frame>
          </manialink>
          or like that:

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          <manialink id="CustomManialink" version="3" name="CustomManialink">
              <frame id="MainFrame" pos="-5 -5">
                  <quad z-index="20" size="20 20" bgcolor="f00"/>
              </frame>
          </manialink>
          
          <manialink id="StandardManialink1" version="3" name="StandardManialink1">
              <frame id="Scoreboard" z-index="5">
                  <quad z-index="10" size="20 20" bgcolor="0f0"/>
              </frame>
          </manialink>
          
          <manialink id="StandardManialink2" version="3" name="StandardManialink2">
              <frame id="Minimap" pos="5 5" z-index="10">
                  <quad size="20 20" bgcolor="00f"/>
              </frame>
          </manialink>
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