Channel Records not working (Chase Attack Gamemode)

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Channel Records not working (Chase Attack Gamemode)

Post by calciferrr » 05 Apr 2019, 19:07

Hello,

I am a frequent player of the Chase Attack gamemode on the Nadeo Channel program rotation. For the past 3 months that I have played on there, the channel records have almost never worked. Whenever they do work, it might be for like 2 days in a row, then they are gone again for a week.

When I mean they dont work, its like that specific plugin just didnt load whenever the server started up. If they dont work, they dont work for the entire program. And if they do work, then they are there the entire hour. For some players this is a dealbreaker for playing that day, since chasing records is what this game is all about right :P

I appreciate Nadeo hosting such a fun gamemode. I didnt find it till the beginning of this year, and I have played there religiously just about every day. Thank you for your help!

Edit: Also forgot the mention this was brought up in another post, but after talking to someone on the Nadeo discord, they pointed out it seems more of a bug with the server, rather then a setting being turned off and on. viewtopic.php?f=627&t=45352

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Re: Channel Records not working (Chase Attack Gamemode)

Post by LBT76240 » 24 Apr 2019, 09:41

Hello.

Currently, the reason why you don't see the Channel Records on Chase is because it is disabled for this Program. It is disabled because the Channel Records is using your personnal time instead of your team time to rank you, which was unfair for the player of the team who passed last at the finish.

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Re: Channel Records not working (Chase Attack Gamemode)

Post by calciferrr » 25 Apr 2019, 18:40

I feel like that goes against the spirit of Trackmania lol. Trying to go as fast as possible.

In all seriousness though, I would request that you please re-enable them. A lot of the fast players that frequent this program have fallen off because the local records dont work. I myself am starting to lose a bit of interest since logging on everyday to play the same map pool gets dry when I am not able to set a new record/improve my time. Just the other day I was able to snipe #1 Channel record on one of the maps when it decided to work.

I know alot of the other players on the server feel the same way as me, and if so I can ask them to come in here and speak on their own behalf. Its been requested for months by different players. viewtopic.php?f=627&t=45352 Its been asked for since December of last year. When playing on other Chase servers, it acts the same way, it takes your personal best time instead of your teams time. I think it is fair since it still emphasizes you trying to drive the quickest line as possible to either improve on a time or help your teammate set a new time.

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Re: Channel Records not working (Chase Attack Gamemode)

Post by Miss » 25 Apr 2019, 18:53

calciferrr wrote:
25 Apr 2019, 18:40
I would request that you please re-enable them.
It should then also count the time for the team as a whole for all players. I assume technically it's not as easy to do this for Chase as it is for Time Attack or Rounds (the system is likely using the same code for all gamemodes that support it).

This probably requires more work than just "re-enabling" it. 2 problems:

1. One of the two players in a team will have a better time than the other instead of having the same time.
2. What happens if there are records set in Chase, but I start a program with the same map in Time Attack? Will everyone now destroy the Chase records?
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Re: Channel Records not working (Chase Attack Gamemode)

Post by calciferrr » 25 Apr 2019, 19:03

I mean I totally agree with you, I thought it was weird when I first discovered the gamemode that it only recorded individual records rather than the team's time. I have played on a few other regular chase servers and it also only keeps track of individual records. I mean the scoreboard has the ability to keep track of "Best Teammate" so I dont know if a line could be drawn from there to the records in the coding somehow?

I still would really like individual records just to see who has set a crazy bonkers lap-time compared to the team time record. 2 days ago me and my teammate hypnoprogress actually set a new #3 and #4 record on the map "Chase - KarQuar" on the program and we finished at the exact same time, so it was 20:391 for both of us which was cool. (After that I managed to get #1 by doing a 20:303 :) )

But realistically any sort of form of records would be nice, I only see people complain about lack of records, especially when about every other program in the rotation has them. Its just nice to have something to work towards.

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Re: Channel Records not working (Chase Attack Gamemode)

Post by Ldfa » 25 Apr 2019, 19:13

I am in favour of a local ranking even if it does not correspond to the team's ranking.

The number of LPs won takes into account individual ranking and not the team's?

Local scores add a very important interest to the game, especially when you are ranked in the first place and no longer win LP and rank.

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Re: Channel Records not working (Chase Attack Gamemode)

Post by calciferrr » 29 Apr 2019, 22:20

Well, Channel Records worked today and I was able to improve upon my #1 record on Chase - KarQuar.

Hopefully this isnt just a bug that they were working and that they were re-enabled :)

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Re: Channel Records not working (Chase Attack Gamemode)

Post by undebutant » 30 Apr 2019, 17:17

We reactivated the records plugin on Nadeo Chase programs :thumbsup:
However it only stores personal times for now.
calciferrr wrote:
25 Apr 2019, 19:03
I mean the scoreboard has the ability to keep track of "Best Teammate" so I dont know if a line could be drawn from there to the records in the coding somehow?
It will required some code in the game mode to communicate the relevant info with the plugin, and some tweaks in the plugin itself. Sadly it isn't our priority right now :?

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Re: Channel Records not working (Chase Attack Gamemode)

Post by calciferrr » 02 May 2019, 19:05

omg its been so nice having channel records, the competition has been back the past 2 days and theres been some really nice times set.

thank you so much for re-enabling them! it definitely re-invigorated that program.

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