One last Update Please ! Merge all TM together

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Re: One last Update Please ! Merge all TM together

Post by BestNoob » 08 Jan 2018, 22:58

wazerti wrote:
23 Dec 2017, 16:39
i7mean wrote:
23 Dec 2017, 15:50
That is not what he means if I understand him correctly... He's not talking about how you buy the titles, he's talking about the entire point of the Maniaplanet platform that divide games in puzzle, some of which piece are even broken (e.g. platform). And all of what he is saying in his big post is true, and may I suggest you to read it again because I don't think you understood it.
I completely agree... If the 4 environments of ManiaPlanet could be unified in just one game (possibility to access to enviros together and not totally separated like it is now :evil: ) it would be perfect... Like in Trackmania United Forever ofc... but Nadeo doesn't trust in this model anymore. They think separate games and break the community like a puzzle in approximately "one" game called "Maniaplanet" is a very good idea...

Since the release of MP4 I pratically stopped to play TM2, the lack of players, the bugs, even the new interface ^^ discouraged me to continue to play...

I think your idea could save Maniaplanet but it won't be realized...
Correct :1010

I have a dream that all trackmania players one day play in a unified game where they will not be splitted by stupid envirnoments, but by the content of it. :pil

Lagoon is a ridiculing of every player who bought one of the MP Titles. MP Stadium is a ridiculing of every player who bought TMUF and TMUF at Steam is a ridiculing of each single TM palyer ever bought TMUF.

That is not a thing of $$€€ its a thing of splitting and destroying one of the best racing games ever made.
And the Solution is simple ManiaPlanet Unity

A player who bought one MP Title should automaticly have access to the rest of the TM titles Valley, Canyon, Lagoon, Stadium & Turbo
It doesnt matter for the f*** $$€€ because teh community is dead and that means there will be no more players you can see the statistics.

But merging all together will maybe safe the soul and the TM spirit.
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Re: One last Update Please ! Merge all TM together

Post by null8fuenf10 » 17 Jan 2018, 14:28

wazerti wrote:
24 Dec 2017, 14:15
i7mean wrote:
23 Dec 2017, 20:37
Speaking about Turbo, this is what Nadeo should have done since the beginning, but of course without the HUGE MISTAKES they made in Turbo (which made it die in about 2 weeks). The game would have been perfect, too bad.
Completely agree :1010
I agree,too!

And yes i know TMT is a console Game, ported to PC. But the main thing is TMT have many of the things MP4 misses and MP4 does other things better. TMT pros - easy MultiEnvi, InGame Mapbrowser, easy Editor(Controller-friendly) and better physics(in my eyes), easy creation of Rooms/Servers
TMT cons - No Names for your builded Tracks, no custom Skins, no mods, etc.

MP4 pros - Advanced Trackbuilding with custom blocks, custom mods, custom car skins and near endless possibilities to modify and change anything
MP4 cons - Complicated and Confusing layout, no or only complicated way to play MultiEnvi Servers, no InGame Map Browser, etc.

In short, mix TMT/TM2(MP4) together and we have the perfect Game.

Maybe its possible, to add TMT as Titlepack in MP4, so everybody who buyed TMT, can access it via MP4???

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Re: One last Update Please ! Merge all TM together

Post by Dommy » 17 Jan 2018, 14:30

Okay, you still don't know different purpose of Turbo and ManiaPlanet. Won't be going through that again.
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Re: One last Update Please ! Merge all TM together

Post by null8fuenf10 » 18 Jan 2018, 22:35

Dommy wrote:
17 Jan 2018, 14:30
Okay, you still don't know different purpose of Turbo and ManiaPlanet. Won't be going through that again.
Okay, still you don't know from what i'm talking about!

I know the purpose of TMT. And i bought it only to support NADEO and play Lagoon, while i'm waiting for release in MP4.
Then i saw that TMT did some things better, then MP4 and that is what makes me sad. I have two Games both give me half the Fun, i except from a Trackmania Game, from NADEO.

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Re: One last Update Please ! Merge all TM together

Post by Miss » 18 Jan 2018, 22:56

null8fuenf10 wrote:
18 Jan 2018, 22:35
Dommy wrote:
17 Jan 2018, 14:30
Okay, you still don't know different purpose of Turbo and ManiaPlanet. Won't be going through that again.
Okay, still you don't know from what i'm talking about!

I know the purpose of TMT. And i bought it only to support NADEO and play Lagoon, while i'm waiting for release in MP4.
Then i saw that TMT did some things better, then MP4 and that is what makes me sad. I have two Games both give me half the Fun, i except from a Trackmania Game, from NADEO.
I think Dommy was referring to you saying "Maybe we can add TMT as a pack in MP4". You using TMT (Trackmania for consoles) as an example, is fine.
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Re: One last Update Please ! Merge all TM together

Post by null8fuenf10 » 18 Jan 2018, 23:04

Ok. No, i mean only PC-Version of TMT. To bring the TMT Players, back to or to MP.

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Re: One last Update Please ! Merge all TM together

Post by BestNoob » 26 Oct 2018, 11:28

Actually i can see a max up tp 100 players per day in each environment.

Most players still in TMNF / TMUF

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Re: One last Update Please ! Merge all TM together

Post by JakJak » 19 Apr 2019, 14:55

Hello ;)
I'm bringing this subject up because I find the backward step interesting.

I agree with the general idea of this topic!

Before I start my text;
**Suggestion: it would be nice if Nadeo faced surveys on their (social networks)
ex: twitter to listen to their community (when it is supported), ex: this subject could surprise the whole nadeo team: ex :

Ex : Vote :
**For a merger of all environments (DLC) of tm² + total price 50¬60 eur (currently at 70eur 2019)
**For a non-melting of all environments (DLC) tm²: total price 70 eur
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ps :I would explain why I call them lower DLC

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Back to the subject:
I wanted to bring here the positive and negative points on this subject with a step back, in a pragmatic way without feelings.

Negative :
- Work for developers to unify the 4 titles so that they work together
- Less profitable (cheaper) games for game creators
- More expensive games for players to buy



Positive :
- Allows access to all environments (+DLC)
- Allows free movement in all environments
- Unlock all trackmania² bonus ( +DLC Combined)
- Allows communication and connection between all Tm² players
- Allows tm² creators and players to have all creation and game modes


what I call DLC :
(+3 unlocked environments, all titles packs, title pack playable with all environments, all adds ons, live bonus, all skins compatible with environments, all maps, all mods mods, all creation of tm²,)

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Ps :
1/ The nadeo argument (tmt only on console)
Nadeo is paradoxical because they also released it for PC players; this creates confusion in their communication strategy with their customers PC.

2 /
+1 to add a "title pack" of "Tm turbo" in an official way by Nadeo
-He would sell this titlpack with planets (ex:100.000)
-(the planets will finally be useful and accessible for players who are interested)
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other idea:
Put 1 paid environment and unlocked the 3 other environments by paying in planet
Get these planets through creation or good places on official nadeo multiplayer servers

Do as in pokemon :
When you bought trackmania²,
launched trackmania 2 you will have to choose 1 environment out of the 4 environments, ( impossible return)
unlock the other by getting creation reward badges ( which will make you win planets)
to get as a choice one of the other environments



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Re: One last Update Please ! Merge all TM together

Post by TheMagician » 26 Apr 2019, 22:42

Once every 6 months I drop by these forums to check the current state of TM.

Ever since TMUF I hoped that TM2 would provide the same experience - 5 or 6 environments with multiple game modes like puzzle and platform as well as an online multiplayer mode with all the environments.

Sadly, every time I read through the updates, things get stranger and stranger ... it seems like you have to be a tech expert to understand how to use all of these new products - while features of the core games remain broken (or become broken) and don't get fixed.

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Re: One last Update Please ! Merge all TM together

Post by TMarc » 27 Apr 2019, 09:20

Or you get Trackmania Turbo. :)
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