Trackmania² Lagoon Special Beta for Trackmania Turbo PC owners

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Mithestral
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Re: Trackmania² Lagoon Special Beta for Trackmania Turbo PC owners

Post by Mithestral » 24 May 2017, 20:18

ralyer wrote:
24 May 2017, 20:12


Seriously I don't understand this situation ...
What i understood : they don't care about their last loyal customers anymore. New players won't come either, who would want to play an online competitive racer with less than 100 people playing ? They betrayed the very community that made the tm games incredible in the past

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Re: Trackmania² Lagoon Special Beta for Trackmania Turbo PC owners

Post by ppgbarc » 24 May 2017, 20:34

Please stop. That's not the issue here. You have no idea what you're talking about.
ralyer wrote:
24 May 2017, 20:12
So if I buy Turbo today or tomorow on Uplay, Lagoon won't be free :|

Seriously I don't understand this situation ...
Well, that's reasonable. The whole point of the deal was to reward people who bought Turbo. Buying Turbo after the free item comes out kinda defeats the purpose of that. It also doesn't really make sense to spend $39.99 just to get a $19.99 item.

As it turns out, I found the original message where the deal was stated. Also, console support was considered after all, though they weren't sure on that and it's reasonable they couldn't do it. But for the deal itself, any business in the world would be seen as questionable for doing something like this.

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Re: Trackmania² Lagoon Special Beta for Trackmania Turbo PC owners

Post by rizu » 24 May 2017, 22:20

Guerro323 wrote:
24 May 2017, 18:24
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It wasn't really promised, so it can't be really a lie.
Yeah, they could do that kind of PR work for a while and then wonder why nobody takes them seriously anymore.

As long time TM fan, I'm pretty disappointed at Nadeo's lack of transparency. I found out about TM2 Lagoon getting finally released after the the launch day, immediately came looking how I could redeem the free environment as that's what Nadeo staff led me to believe I would get a long time ago.

Just giving the free Lagoon to TMT owners who knew about secret beta and no-one else was just a slap to loyal supporters face. I really wonder if this pays off for Nadeo because while some fans of the series most likely just suck it up and "rebuy" Lagoon, they probably lose lots of people who have supported them during all these years. I've been buying every addition to the series for the past 10 years but this makes me reconsider supporting them anymore.

This approach can't be good for the companys reputation or good for it's sales if/when they ever try to do a stunt like this again.

and yes, I made an account for this rant (I don't usually hang out on these forums unless it's near launch or I plan to preorder).

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Re: Trackmania² Lagoon Special Beta for Trackmania Turbo PC owners

Post by 19johannes97 » 25 May 2017, 00:18

rizu wrote:
24 May 2017, 22:20
Guerro323 wrote:
24 May 2017, 18:24
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It wasn't really promised, so it can't be really a lie.
Yeah, they could do that kind of PR work for a while and then wonder why nobody takes them seriously anymore.

As long time TM fan, I'm pretty disappointed at Nadeo's lack of transparency. I found out about TM2 Lagoon getting finally released after the the launch day, immediately came looking how I could redeem the free environment as that's what Nadeo staff led me to believe I would get a long time ago.

Just giving the free Lagoon to TMT owners who knew about secret beta and no-one else was just a slap to loyal supporters face. I really wonder if this pays off for Nadeo because while some fans of the series most likely just suck it up and "rebuy" Lagoon, they probably lose lots of people who have supported them during all these years. I've been buying every addition to the series for the past 10 years but this makes me reconsider supporting them anymore.

This approach can't be good for the companys reputation or good for it's sales if/when they ever try to do a stunt like this again.

and yes, I made an account for this rant (I don't usually hang out on these forums unless it's near launch or I plan to preorder).

@rizu you have told what i have thought. :thumbsup:
I'm playing Canyon since 2012 and bought Vally few days after release.


Personal thoughts to MP4
Channels nice to play with a massiv amount of players, except for chase mode. If you get into a team with player, who knows how to play chase, then it makes really really fun (love that mode with a good team). But with players they are afk or don't know or wont know/listen to you to get a teamwork going.
I loved Vally before MP4 update, some Physics have changed (on dirt aswell). Btw @Hylis is there a way to get the old physics back for single player mode?

My Personal like Meter has changed to "Canyon <3 , Valley is playable, Stadium is playable to" from "Vally <3 <3 <3 , Canyon <3, Stadium is playable (Chase mode <3)".


About Lagoon Beta - My Trys...
It was well hidden, as my friend told me yesterday how he got Lagoon beta with TMT via Steam few hours ealier, "really easy, just install and play few minutes" Then i have tried to get it to via Uplay, as written in Webinterface.

But there were 2 Problems yesterday(23. May): 1. Downloading Shootmania Elite Dome doesn't worked 2. Yesterday(23. May) i have clicked the Register Button for Lagoon Beta in Webinterface, but it's gone today.
I don't know what uplay have done, downloading Shootmania worked today(24. May), until playing. I pressed play in uplay it showed an error message up "Corrupted installation. Please reinstall the game." i have tried different combinations with settings in the installation guide with default and costum folders, but it didn't worked. BUT Surpisingly MP installed via Uplay works, just pressed "Ok" on that Error Message and MP started like normal.

No Luck for unlocking Lagoon.

I hope there is coming something for community/the loyal players, because no players = no gameplay in multiplayer = no way to get new players

Sorry for a kind of that long post. Didn't wanted to get that long. Just wanted to Like rizu's post.


and yes, I have made an account for that kind of post too.


[Edit]
My installed MP broke after installing MP via UPlay... :evil:

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Re: Trackmania² Lagoon Special Beta for Trackmania Turbo PC owners

Post by drakargx » 25 May 2017, 00:49

Guerro323 wrote:
24 May 2017, 18:24
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It wasn't really promised, so it can't be really a lie.
That's a bit deceitful.

If it wasn't promised then the post should have said something along the lines of "Yes, we wish to give Maniaplanet Lagoon for free to every Trackmania Turbo owner, but it has yet to be confirmed if we can do it." As the post is now it's wholly understandable that people would take his post to mean "When Lagoon comes out we will get it for free if we own TMT".

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Re: Trackmania² Lagoon Special Beta for Trackmania Turbo PC owners

Post by rizu » 25 May 2017, 01:32

drakargx wrote:
25 May 2017, 00:49
Guerro323 wrote:
24 May 2017, 18:24
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It wasn't really promised, so it can't be really a lie.
That's a bit deceitful.

If it wasn't promised then the post should have said something along the lines of "Yes, we wish to give Maniaplanet Lagoon for free to every Trackmania Turbo owner, but it has yet to be confirmed if we can do it." As the post is now it's wholly understandable that people would take his post to mean "When Lagoon comes out we will get it for free if we own TMT".
In addition to that old message, they kept suggesting all along that it was still in their plans to do it:

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..well, until the game finally released of course, but I haven't seen any mention where they said they couldn't make it happen. Instead they just kept suggesting that's what they want and plan to do.

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Re: Trackmania² Lagoon Special Beta for Trackmania Turbo PC owners

Post by Rots » 25 May 2017, 02:18

EXACTLY ^
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Re: Trackmania² Lagoon Special Beta for Trackmania Turbo PC owners

Post by Hylis » 25 May 2017, 08:01

Well Rizu, if it was not clear before it's simply because we fougth internally until the very end to explain why it would have been great to welcome all TMT players. And the best we were 'able' was to inform and reward through the beta participation. Since we have waited a lot to get answers, we had to give the news lately.

This being said, to players that say that they are supporting us since 10 years and now that they are done, after so many updates Forever and mp from 1 to 4, and with 90 euros to spend to have all that we did on Trackmania over the last 10 years, I think that these additional 20 euros, are reasonable. And the fact that we gave lagoon to community players that were supporting us during the beta, but with a limited edition to avoid to split too much with players that are maybe absent for a time, is rather positive than negative in my pov.

In the end, we tried to do our best, like we always do because it's logical. If you think we don't, then it's starting badly the reasoning.

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Re: Trackmania² Lagoon Special Beta for Trackmania Turbo PC owners

Post by pp1 » 25 May 2017, 08:35

Hello,
I have Tm2 directly (without steam or uplay) what key should it buy steam or uplay?

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Re: Trackmania² Lagoon Special Beta for Trackmania Turbo PC owners

Post by ralyer » 25 May 2017, 08:45

pp1 wrote:
25 May 2017, 08:35
Hello,
I have Tm2 directly (without steam or uplay) what key should it buy steam or uplay?
Whatever, all you need its to connect sime the same Maniaplanet account :thumbsup:

For exemple, I have bought Canyon, Valley and Stadium on Steam and I just bought Lagggon on Uplay ... And i can play with all environnment :pil

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