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Recent update "ruined" stadium cam 1

Post by Tobirousch » 03 Aug 2017, 12:06

Hey, everyone. So I installed the latest update yesterday and played for a while.
One thing everybody probably noticed is that the cam weirdly moves before the start which is strange and has no value at all. (only in stadium afaik)
Besides this, though I personally feel like the handling of cam 1 itself is a little bit different. This might not be true given the fact I get dizzy just from the new start animation of the cam already, but the way the cam moves atm gives me problems. I don't know what exactly is wrong. The overall feeling of cam 1 feels like it's gotten closer to cam 2 which would be something no cam 1 player wants but whatever changed,,, please look into it and change it back. At least remove the movement of the cam before and after the start of the race. it has no value and seriously makes me dizzy looking at it.

The fact that you can switch between cam2/cam3 with just 1 button and as cam 1 player you need 2 buttons to do the same, already triggers me.
Please don't trigger me even more =D

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Re: Recent update "ruined" stadium cam 1

Post by eyebo » 08 Aug 2017, 20:03

Cam 1 does indeed swing at the start, unlike the previously fixed cam at start in Stadium.

Interestingly the only other environment this happens in is Island. It's like Cam 1 was taken from Island and put into TM2 Stadium. It does seem to be accentuated in TM2 Stadium though.

People are used to it being fixed in place. In my opinion, it should be restored to the way it was, if for no other reason than to be consistent with every other version of Stadium, and to be consistent with the other TM2 environments. But also to prevent people from getting motion sickness over it. People are sensitive to small changes like this when they play a game for months or even years.

Just a few quotes from people on Discord:
DdariQ wrote:Cam 1 changed yeah? Feels weird when countdown
its like spec camera
Empyrean wrote:Why does camera zoom out before starting race ?
and then zooms back in after you start going

It's extremely annoying
stopped playing after 15 mins just because of that -.-
shorty wrote:I don't know about normal people but retarded me gets dizzy thx to new cam 1 and can't "really" play
I've tested cam 1 at the start in every environment. Here's some videos of me testing:

Here's all the starts with cam 1 in TMUF (only Island swings):
2:19 - https://streamable.com/rp1cg

Here's all the starts with cam 1 in MP3 (all cams fixed in place at start):
2:15 - https://streamable.com/tnps4

Here's all the starts with cam 1 in MP4 after the August 2, 2017 update (only Stadium swings):
3:06 - https://streamable.com/cay4l
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Re: Recent update "ruined" stadium cam 1

Post by eyebo » 08 Aug 2017, 20:28

Okay, interestingly, the cam 1 start cam on multilap starts in TMNF Stadium also swings.
https://streamable.com/gfgpd

Cam 1 Also swings in Island Multilap starts:
https://streamable.com/xh08r

But Cam 1 is fixed in place at the start on multilap blocks in:
Desert - https://streamable.com/13f2i
Rally - https://streamable.com/9eudl
Snow - https://streamable.com/w2cfz
Coast - https://streamable.com/ionnh
Bay - https://streamable.com/fyjyy

But in MP3 Stadium, Cam 1 is fixed in place at the start, even on multilap starts:
https://streamable.com/ucm4h

And of course, after the August 2 update in MP4, not only does cam 1 swing at the start on normal starts, but also in multilap starts in Stadium:
https://streamable.com/70va1

Well, all that research is interesting, but probably not that useful. :P

Here's the full results:
Cam 1 that is fixed in place during countdown at start:
TMF Desert normal start
TMF Desert multilap start
TMF Rally normal start
TMF Rally multilap start
TMF Snow normal start
TMF Snow multilap start
TMF Coast normal start
TMF Coast multilap start
TMF Bay normal start
TMF Bay multilap start
TMF Stadium normal start
TMNESWC Stadium normal start
MP3 Canyon normal start
MP3 Canyon multilap start
MP4 Canyon normal start
MP4 Canyon multilap start
MP3 Valley normal start
MP3 Valley multilap start
MP4 Valley normal start
MP4 Valley multilap start
MP4 Lagoon normal start
MP4 Lagoon multilap start
MP3 Stadium normal start
MP3 Stadium multilap start

So it seems the only times Cam 1 swings:
TMF Island normal start.
TMF Island multilap start.
TMF Stadium multilap start
TMNESWC Stadium multilap start
TM2 Stadium normal start (after August 2, 2017 update)
TM2 Stadium multilap starts (after August 2, 2017 update)

My recommendation: Cam 1 should be fixed in place during the countdown on all types of TM2 Stadium start blocks. Please :D
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Re: Recent update "ruined" stadium cam 1

Post by tcq » 09 Aug 2017, 06:53

This is what I call a perfect bug report :thumbsup:

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Re: Recent update "ruined" stadium cam 1

Post by DexteR771 » 11 Aug 2017, 15:18

Good Report tho

and for me also the cam 1 feels slightly diffrent by driving but thats not a big probleme for me
but why is there these up and down in the start which also makes me dizzy
so in my eyes it makes definetly no sense to introduce that when the countdown starts

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Re: Recent update "ruined" stadium cam 1

Post by Tobirousch » 13 Aug 2017, 17:18

Why don't we get any information about this? With the biggest TM competition starting next weekend I really don't like that training as cam1 driver is more stressing then before since we need to change cams every round to avoid the weird cam movement.

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Re: Recent update "ruined" stadium cam 1

Post by Alinoa » 14 Aug 2017, 09:40

Hi,

Thank you for this detailed report :thumbsup:
Some developers are in holidays so we can't provide you with more information for the moment.

Kind regards :)
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Re: Recent update "ruined" stadium cam 1

Post by Tobirousch » 27 Aug 2017, 15:03

I respect that developers need holidays. (Oh yes they definitely do) but could we plese soon get an answer?
All we want is the cam to not move like a pole dancer....or an option to turn it off :D

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