3 Games?

[kamyl]

Does any of them have a powerfull editor or an even more powerfull mediatracker.
Do any of these games accept user generated content like TM does?
Do these games still catch your imagination like TM does after 5 or 7 years?

Yes.
You have a neat map editor in game as well as more advanced Source SDK.
MediaTracker? Phi, Source FilmMaker!

An organization like Steam/Valve makes a lot of money selling on games they didn't develop themselves so it's not strange they probably have the budget to sell games at a lower price.

Why should I care?
And correct me if I am wrong, but Ubisoft also didn't come up with original TrackMania.

€20,- is peanuts for the complete and awesome game TM is.

Except it's not complete. 1 environment is not making TrackMania game complete.

I don't know any of the games you mention above but:
How many different environments do they have?

Is that a serious question?
Environments are something that makes TrackMania games unique (and not only different environments).

[Hylis]

Maybe I'm wrong here, but all these most expensive AAA games don't cost more than 50€.

1. I think you are wrong about the top price, and more especially when you have the deluxe digital editions and/or the DLCs.
2. I think you forget to say that it is sometimes every year.

Our games are at €19.99 (much better than €20 ^_^) and they can combine. Do not blame us too much for making a game that you bought two years ago compatible with the games we are making today.

The fact that you want them all is another question, and a good one, and we try to put a reasonable limit per genre. This is why I said that 3 environments was fine, and 5 maximum somehow. But we are nowhere near that at the moment. Only TM2 will have 3 environements, at €49.99, the normal price of one AAA game indeed. But we are doing cAnyon, vAlley and stAdium, because it is TrAckmAniA. How would you disagree

And I agree that the price is something, and I think we have a balance between to costly and to cheap. It is good for the whole project that we find the right spot, I think it is better that there is a price difference between players that would not be interested too much and players that want everything. So, I feel also that the price is quite there, but I think it is quite fair.

[Miraculix123]

For eSport stadium is the only clear choice anyhow. Thats the game i will play!

[HaagseSmurf]

Some examples - these games cost 50€ on release date: Max Payne 3, Skyrim, Tomb Rider.

That means they cost together € 150,00 ???
For € 50,00 you can play 3 awesome games as Canyon, Valley and Stadium and i bet you will spent more time on Canyon, Valley and Stadium together then the above mentioned games

So i absolutely agree with Zarexz on:

€50,- is peanuts for the complete and awesome game TM is.

Greetz,

[luftisbollentm2]

I will still play this game when you buy it

Trackmania is giving the player endless playing for 20 19.99 thats better

This meight be a question in Q & A But I put it here while we talk about environments.

quote Hylis Only TM2 will have 3 environements

You have worked on canyon and valley for like 5 years i think and i really think you
have one title that comes after valley that you don´t mentioned and will keep a secret, that you been working on for 3 years now maybe more, or am i wrong ? Naa don´t think so, and i dont want to see pictures from a game that comes in 3 years, unbarable to wait, but i guess its to advertise a game and thats why they show it so earlie..

But i think this is the way to go at release of new games
keep it a secret. Start a campain 1 week before release of any unknown game (1 month top)
then baam, wow this game is already here, i want it now

but then you must be 100 % on your product at release
but if you have done it like this maybe we didn´t seen the new menus and stuff
but you have sold alot more imo, even do i don´t know the numbers. and i think tm is a success
you need to sell 500 000 games for 10 years of salery for your team, and you already done that i think anyway..
And that is only canyon i am talking about ^^

best of luck..
SPIDER

[TMarc]

Our games are at €19.99 (much better than €20 ^_^) and they can combine.

ManiaPlanet SuperMarket. Great games at discount price. Get in and try out!
Today, speciall offer: pre-baked products until final release only: Storm and Stadium.

(pre-baked beta)

The fact that you want them all is another question, and a good one, and we try to put a reasonable limit per genre. This is why I said that 3 environments was fine, and 5 maximum somehow. But we are nowhere near that at the moment. Only TM2 will have 3 environements

I hope you're only talking of this current year here
With the new combination possibilties, why restrict the number of titles at all?
No one is forced to purchase all available titles at the same time anyways, and people can decide more flexible than with a fixed set of environments like it was done earlier with TMO/TMS/TMUF.
So it does not really matter how much a title costs (if it is 15, 20 or 25€), as long as it is a fair trade, interesting and fun to play.
There is always one who can afford to purchase all at once, and another who can purchase only a lightweight title like Stadium.

And until the community is allowed and enabled to provide complete new titles (with contents from A to Z: mods+skins+objects+blocks+etc.), a lot of time will pass, where Nadeo can still release new nice titles as well

The AAA thing

[Hylis]

this year of course

^_^ TMarc, I will reveal you something. StOrm, CryO are more for ShOOtmania than cAnyon, vAlley and stAdium are for TrAckmania

[Fix]

This is a good game for Ogres then

[Akbalder]

How to take a decision by Nadeo: Count the letters!!!

[Hylis]

Nadeo, Shoot, Track, Quest, Mania => 5 letters ^^

We succesfully followed it for Joust, Elite, Royal, Siege, Melee, Realm

But Battle, Heroes, we had to make exceptions ^_^