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edk
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Can you update/improve the friends system please?

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This think is in dire need of some options and general polish.

Why is there so much space between messages? Why does it try to cram entire messages into one single line no matter how much is written? Why are there no options to disable notifications when a friend comes online/goes offline/joins a server? When get past a certain friend threshold all you see all day is "XYZ has come online", "ABC" has gone offline", "LMN has joined a server". Why is it so bulky in relation to every other piece of UI? Why do I sometimes get a random lag when a friend comes online? Why when I go offline do I still see all these messages? As in there's no point in ever going offline because it doesn't actually disconnect you.

With all due respect and I've been using friends system since Xfire over 10 years ago, I have never seen a more featureless, optionless, underdeveloped friends system, ever.

I really enjoy TM2 and the general community, but this thing... geez... it's just plain awful.

Thanks and I hope this thing gets an update soon.
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What you are complaining about the most is, that you cannot turn off the "logged in" and "playing on" messages.

Going "offline", obviously there is no offline in an online only game, is meant to show you to others as if you're offline, so people cannot join you to where you are and they can't send you caht messages.

If you want the notifications to disappear, change your status to "busy". AS the name says, it's meant for people who are busy and cannot deal with all the notifications popping up.


Also you forgot to add, that friend requests should be LIVE and not only when logging in... it's been screwing over people since 2006.

But we'll see what Maniaplanet 3 changes. Maybe some of this is done already.
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Post by novationx »

UrinStein wrote:What you are complaining about the most is, that you cannot turn off the "logged in" and "playing on" messages.

Going "offline", obviously there is no offline in an online only game, is meant to show you to others as if you're offline, so people cannot join you to where you are and they can't send you caht messages.

If you want the notifications to disappear, change your status to "busy". AS the name says, it's meant for people who are busy and cannot deal with all the notifications popping up.


Also you forgot to add, that friend requests should be LIVE and not only when logging in... it's been screwing over people since 2006.

But we'll see what Maniaplanet 3 changes. Maybe some of this is done already.
I disagree with you. This is not how it should work, Uristein.
Why? My killer arguement is --> Look at évéry other chat/friend-system.
Ur reply maybe a temporarily solution, but its far from perfect.

I agree with edk; of all things in Maniaplanet the chat/friend-system needs the most improvements, but I've read that these are coming in the next update :yes:
The neverending waiting game has to stop.
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novationx wrote:I disagree with you. This is not how it should work, Uristein.
Why? My killer arguement is --> Look at évéry other chat/friend-system.
Ur reply maybe a temporarily solution, but its far from perfect.
Your being absolutely vague.

All I said is, that regarding the problem with the notifications, there is problem for me, because all options are there already. What would you like to change about the four stati (online, busy, away and offline), since you seem to disagree with me?

Beside of the notifications he doesn't like, he mention two other things:
- the chat trying to put fucking everything in one single line, which is true and it sucks
- the random lag when someone comes on, which I have never heard of

I'm okay with that, I didn't say anything about it. But yeah it should be changed. Also I added another point to his list.

Now, how do you disagree with me? What would you change exactly? Ho do those other friend systems look like, that you are talking about? And how can you make a post that makes me ask soooooo many questions?^^


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All I did in my first post, is explaining edk the status options and how he can disable the notifiations.
Also I added one point to his list of flaws. I really don't know how anyone could disagree with me. -.-
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Post by novationx »

yeah man dont worry^^

You're first post was like: "yes, but if you do that it works and if you do that it works too"
U made it seem ( a bit ) that the chatsystem is good and that is has a solution for everything.

After reading your post a 2nd time I understand better now that you arent happy either ;) so dont worry.

For me "offline" is not the same as "still getting messages ingame + notification etc"
I would like a "bussy+offline" mix. ( = other chat-systems )


Anyways, the most important thing said in this thread is that nadeo is already working on it + they communicated officially that a lot of things will be better in the update next month. So all we can do now is be patient^^
The neverending waiting game has to stop.
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Re: Can you update/improve the friends system please?

Post by edk »

Thank you UrinStein, I did not know how the Busy option worked in terms of disabling notifications. I think this underlines something novationx was alluding to, in that the friends system is unintuitive in how it works in this regard. It's as though this was developed completely in-house, without referencing any other system or the generally simple advances that friend/chat programs have gone through over the years.

I just became so frustrated with this thing lately. It's too bulky (chat windows don't need to take up half the screen), there's too much empty space, there's no options, it crams everything into one line, and yeah, i get a random lag (not always though) when a friend comes online.
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