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Maniaworld idea

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Hey

I had this one crazy big idea like 10+ months ago, i got very hyped, then i started to write it up and it evolved to quite crazy stuff, then i didnt want to post such a out of context idea and forgot it completely.
But now i was looking through my harddrives and found this txt file again.

So as a foreword 'warning' i say that if it sounds big & crazy, i know ;D But then i had a feel i dont want to waste it either, because i liked the concept alot. It would probably take nadeo whole lifetime to do even the basics and the engine probably couldnt handle maybe, but then again it just text ;D

I was going then to clean up lot of the stuff from the txt, but i dont have time right now to re-read it all, so heres the dirty version which includes everything. If i would put emphasis on some idea, it would be the "nadeo house" where people can have virtual meetings and announcement partys

The text:

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- One day i thought about name maniaplanet: its a planet, if its a planet then its world, if its a world, then there has to be people living there, if theres people, then there has to be homes, citys for them, and it gradually builded up to something like this:

# Maniaplanet world:

The maniaplanet as a system core itself, would be virtual world between the games. You create main character and you have home in the maniaworlds 3d earth.

To visualize: You start maniaplanet and maniaworld earth appears, which is the virtual world and the 'game':
http://www.wallpapersfreedesktop.com/up ... papers.jpg

Use your imagination how it could be, but these are my views:

- You create a character body that you use in the world, you move in the world in 3rd person view, and in the world theres lands, citys, towns, like a virtual "community core" which connects everybody with their virtual bodys. You have a home in one land, can travel and live in the planet, meet others, have meetings, buy, sell, and could have bit progressive feel to develope your caracter in the world. 'Virtual community gatherings', meetings, etc.

- How you move in the world could be open world style and third person view, free to explore feel.

- Maybe: Planets used as money and you can buy new homes, houses, land, cars, mansions, trade, and use planet for extending and progressing in the maniaworld.

- The gameplay still would not be forced or heavy, and maniaworlds purpose is to be more of virtual core world between main games. So if you want to develope your character in the maniaworld, you can, but you dont lose anything if you dont. The main purpose would be a community core for virtual bodys.

- So you kind of start in this 'ingame atmosphere'. Start maniaplanet > it goes to maniaworld, which is 'ingame' already > you go play sm > come out from sm and it comes back to maniaworld. So the world is like a matchmaking lobby core without still making matches or anything like matchmaking, but like the main 3d station between games. So instead of menu system with button and texts, the maniaplanet would be kind of real world between games.


- City, in all homes lives somebody:
http://www.gearthblog.com/images/images ... sburgh.jpg
http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18cjjmz ... xlarge.jpg

- You get home apartment from house, many different homes and houses. :
http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/ ... 7712c3.jpg

- Voice communication: Could set voice communication on/off, Voice comes from the characters mouth in the game. Real life feel while hanging. Can also ignore players or select players you only want to hear if needed (or set direct connections).


^- That would be pretty much in nutshell. ** (Could be only simple connection core between games, or then have more detailed and has gameplayish feel and world progresses and evolves. For more detailed gameplay, underneath is basic examples what could be:

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### Basics & More details:

- One idea instead of main menu text system: When you start maniaplanet, it shows the maniaplanet earth as first screen, in zoomed out position like in pic:
http://www.wallpapersfreedesktop.com/up ... papers.jpg

- You can zoom in/out the earth, spin it, and see others in the planet. You can click different locations and you get trasnported to that place. When you click your home house in the earth (which could be more brighter home in the earth surface, or logo) -> the camera zooms into the home and the player character transports into his home apartment into third person view. Main menu stillscreen layer lays on top of the player vision and shows the main menu: "Games (SM/TM)", "Profile", etc listed like normal menu. You press "games" and you get list of games. You choose TM and opens TM. If you want to go into the maniaworld, select maniaworld button from menu and the main menu layer disappears from vision and player is in his room, then can go out from door to streets and explore the open world

http://www.lovile.com/wp-content/upload ... 27x414.jpg
^- As one idea, the main menu still screen texts could be at the players home apartment walls themed

- Minimal but depth enough gameplay in the world
- When i first thought this idea, i thought the basic concept is cool, like 3d world between games. But then i thought what could be the reasons for players to enjoy playing in that world, so i came up with few ideas that could be there. Ofcourse everything can be skipped and use the main structure, but these are just to give direction and similar:

- There could be bit of sims and 0,01% simcity/monopoly feel to give minimal strategy feel to buy, sell and build to the maniaworld. Its evolving 'trade world'.

- The gameplay could still be made to be cool, rewarding and progressing. Fighting, racing fast in the streets, buying and selling with strategy for examples.


### Houses:

You get home with your account to the maniaworld. Later on when you gain more planets to buy new house, you can move to another houses, mansions and get bigger.

- One stock account: House, car and garage:
http://idata.over-blog.com/3/93/72/64/3d-Rendering.jpg

- The houses could be stable made: citys, villages, woods are ready made to the worlds map. And you can buy the ready made mansions, home, etc with planets. Maybe the world could have inner construction yards which changes from time to time.

- You can live in one home, when you progress and get planets you can buy bigger home, then later mansion, start to run small shop, maybe buy funpark and have planet incomings through there, and similar progress. I dont know, maybe there could be alot of other completely different ideas how to progress.

- Home room:
When you start maniaplanet, you see the main earth and click your home in that earth. You zoom into your apartment and are in third person view in your home room:
http://www.3dhousedownload.com/wp-conte ... gn-pic.jpg
http://www.archiform3d.com/3d-gallery/0 ... dering.jpg
http://www.archiform3d.com/3d-gallery/0 ... dering.jpg
^- Like homes

Royal room.
http://www.3dhousedownload.com/wp-conte ... render.jpg

In the pic, living room for 2-4 room apartment, there can. Your buddy can move into the home with you and live there aswell. The woman face picture on wall could be little menu system, or shows forum on your living room live:
http://static4.depositphotos.com/100994 ... dering.jpg

- The home room could have systems like many feeworld games have,like When you walk in the home and point to computer and click, it opens up maniaplanet forum and you can write ingame to there. Logged in with accountname automatically when you have maniaplanet open, something like you have your characters face as avatar by default. There could be many other little ideas to make the home have specials

Special living room:
http://www.iseecubed.com/wp-content/upl ... t-home.jpg

Special personal room:
https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/imag ... gw6eolyb8e

- Nadeo could have own mansion located in the earth, big house. You can go into that building:
http://www.archivisionstudio.com/Archit ... dering.jpg
^- Like nadeo central, you can go in there.

http://s.cghub.com/files/Image/238001-2 ... 96_max.jpg
^- Inside the nadeo central

http://www.busydoor.com/images/2012/11/ ... undeck.jpg
^- Backyard of nadeo central. There could be some official "virtual gatherings" over there. Everybody comes there with maniaplanet body, you can meet, see mappers, trackers and people there. If the players has voice possibility and it comes from characters mouth, you could hang around semi virtual

http://interiorfind.com/images/light-gr ... d-9305.jpg
^- For funny detail, In nadeo central building, nadeo has at highest floor business room. Nadeo team can login with their caracter, go to business room, open doors and sadzealot and others can come in, put voice talk on and tell about walljumps and 3 dot ;D
Or just another fun vision, Nadeo officially releases some new things for the games and haves a maniaworld conference in big hall room. All the players gathers with their virtual body to the nadeos big cathedral where conference is held. Nadeo has all members as characters there on stage and hylis can speak to microphone on stage and everybody are in the audience as characters like you are in pgw audience, so its very virtual feeling world. Microphone + speakers in the cathedral, background screen at stage like in live events.
So similar details would stimulate the maniaworld to be like real world. If nadeo wants to held a conference in maniaworld, no need to travel to paris or anywhere, just open maniaworld and go to the announcement conference and see it live from there :)


### Profile/Caracters:

- Many stock characters. So almost everybody are own dudes and has ID.

http://1.s3.envato.com/files/2118652/002rm100.jpg
http://webneel.com/sites/default/files/ ... 20(27).jpg
http://cdn1.sbnation.com/imported_asset ... m-timn.jpg

- If possible, very basic body shaper to make individual bodys, stretch arms, legs, or animate walking, so all guys are unique. Could almost create same type of person who you are in real life, so its very vivid world:

One depth: Every player who creates account gets 'unique random body' by default. So if you dont want to modify your character ingame ever, you still have unique body that you use.
Maybe some script could do it, when creating account, script randomly chooses the combination what player gets, the colour of clothes, height, body structure, random face shape, lip size, etc with each player. Then if you want you can modify it.
Its almost like in SM theres the minecraft skin, it feels like theres some special guy around, so all the guys would have same depth as a caracter in the world, everybody are special individuals, how they move, how they look, how long arms etc.

- The player could have simple energy in the worlds little gameplay, so if you crash badly or theres possibility for fightin, you can die but reset somewhere close.

- When player is on the streets and wants to play SM, he can instantly still go to esc > games > SM and play. The player caracter in the street pops like a smoke bomb and vanishes then. Then when he quits SM, he comes back to the street where left. So if players go to play with group, they come back with group if they quit same time, so it keeps connections. Maybe could have option in the esc menu, "quit to Home" = goes home, "quit" = comes where you left, to street, house, woods, or where ever.

### Money/planets:

- You can use planets to buy different things. Houses, mansions, locations,

- The players bank/planet amount is live updating, like small icon at right up corner that shows your current amount, shown like $2000. When you buy, or somebody gives you money you see it instantly change at the corner, live update. When you click the money icon, opens up bank account details: The incomings etc statistics, what you have bought and received, dues, etc details. Could have many ways to receive planets. You play TM > you receive when playing > then have a use for it in maniaworld. And also receive from the maniaworld.
- In the pic theres the money logo live at right corner, so maybe similar live static but at top right corner, so when you play you see the receive straight and can keep track
http://romdav.com/wp-content/uploads/20 ... _game1.jpg

- Big bank house in the world.

- One idea could be that when you do stuffs like objects, skins, maps, you could get planets by selling them from your shop. So you can create ingame incomings with your stuff you create and many stuffs becomes valuable.
- Maybe user could buy a shop building from the world. Then sell his maps, blocks, skins and others through there.
http://eu-static.bullring.co.uk.s3.amaz ... e/game.jpg
^- When you walk into the shop with caracter, there are menu what you can buy in the counter desk. One way could be ingame style like in many 3rd person games, there is glowing menu on the counter table, you walk and aim it and press mouse and it opens catalog to show what you can buy.

- Subway map to quickly locate shops and all iconed places.

- Mansion:
http://www.extravaganzi.com/wp-content/ ... jordan.jpg
^- you can drive to the mansion with car, meet up and make a meeting point

- For saving space, many "basic players" could live in stacked apartment buildings as their first home. And if they want to buy own bigger home, they still have enough stock money to buy which they got when creating account. So if the system would get alot of players, placing them to city apartment buildings, could layer the players in to city and everybody dont need ground space. Also there could be like little neighbourhood feel when many players lives in same apartment and you know who player lives next to you and new guys coming to neighbor. Then when you have progressed and get more money, can move to bigger own house, progress to buy locations, dominate areas, run things.
- Every bigger building has a rent. If you join to team, you can move to their community mansion and live with them and pay the bills of mansion together, and similar other 'progresses' inside the world.

- Basic stock apartment buildings has only single room with bed and no royal things:
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/imag ... 0raw4gS2-w

- With like 20 000 planets could buy bigger home that has 4 rooms and can have 4 buddys in there in the same house. Can invite friends there. If all the friends has lots of money, they can team up and buy big home with 10-20 player slots and live with many players together.

- Richmans hotel, very expensive:
http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/5183/c ... 920x10.jpg

- JUst for extra idea, some of the extensions could have simple games inside. So when you buy for example a football field, or tennis field, there is simple football game in the field and you can have matches, triggered to join when you walk through the join gate. When player plays it, the owner gets small fee for it and can run it for profit, like 50$ with each join. Another could be warehouse that has paintball game. Would cost quite much to buy it, ~80 000 planets and it acts like a small server for people. People can come in and have match there, walk through the join gate and match starts, and every player who joins pays small fee for the game, so it pays back for buying the warehouse. Can locate with gps/subway map all the warehouses + see player amount of each + quick transport through subway map Or just drive around the maniaworld looking matches.
For extra detail: When you buy littlegame house and you get incomings through it when others play there, there could be house rent for the owner, so if you dont have enough money to pay the rent, you cant keep it forever and the owners might change, so the owners changes from time to time and circles.

- Like the football field is in the corner, you seek for field and join the game:
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/imag ... WrOw1ln4-A

- Random detail: Official main football field. Used for official big matches. When you join to watch: You get spectator mode and you are in the audience with character:
http://paybymobilephone.com/wp-content/ ... xqvs69.jpg

- Playing any game increases your money and many other things gives you money also. So you receive always something extra when playing any game in maniaplanet and can use it in maniaworld. If there would be little games inside maniaworld those could give you small amount of money when you play and the main big games: TM, SM gives you more.

### Team houses:

- Team houses. Living room of team house:
http://www.iseecubed.com/wp-content/upl ... render.jpg

- Teams can buy team house. Team houses are bigger buildings with many smaller player rooms inside. 10, 20, 50 player houses. Also there are team mansions and other extensions for richest teams, teams can pay bigger mansions together in group if they want to have better building with more activities around. Team member can choose does he want to move into team house or stay in private home. When you start game, click home in the earth and you start up from the joined team house with the caracter and you can semi virtually see other members if they are around there. Like theres ingame inside ingame. You have main body and hang with your friends in the home, talk with voice "lets play sm", "ok, lets go to zakazaka server" and everybody goes to there, play there, comes back to maniaworld and continues with the body, maybe set a new server. Or one another occasion, you are with your friend playing, both of you dont like the server, so now you should say to chat "lets go to another" and when you quit the communicaation dsiconnects. So with maniaworld you say "lets quit", then you get transferred back to the virtual place with your friend and you stay connected and can communicate and select servers in that room together.

Inside team house, 5-10 this type individual room slots:
http://www.astinstudios.com/images/port ... %20(4).jpg

Futuristic team house, player can gather around the tv, maybe the tv can show something live you can watch:
http://o.homedsgn.com/wp-content/upload ... use-06.jpg

- Teams could have territory areas when members buys many houses from small areas

http://tf3dm.com/imgd/l40266-fantasy-wi ... -53140.jpg
^- Like those towers would be some teams houses they have bought. So when team buys lots of buildings from city, they start to develope a territory, like a gang hood. And normal players lives in the city in buildings under their territory. You might have paid room that is from their building, and the money goes to the team bank account, and citizens lives 'under their' control. If you dont like some team neighbourhood you can try to see better citys with better prices and services, or buy private home if you dont like apartment building slot homes, or try to find house from country side.

- Big building for a team in the middle of city, team can buy it but costs alot:
http://hdwallpapercollection.com/wp-con ... lpaper.jpg

- Team island:
http://www.sharecg.com/images/medium/11 ... v%20class=

- Teams can tag their house with custom icon. One extra could be, if team buys 80% of citys building they can tag the city. But very hard to buy that much and challenging to tag city.

- SMX / TMX could have own mansion house in some land. You can drive through the streets there, then go with your caracter into the TMX building and maybe see other mappers somtimes "almost live", can also talk with your voice through your caracter (if voice is set on). Could be triggers inside the house, for example when you go to "tracks room" inside the MX house, opens up TMX list window and "maps" maps list. You can click the track name, it downloads and asks do you want to play it. Or similar triggers inside houses. Or use the mouse button, button is at wall and when you aim to it and click, opens window with list (or animated ingame 3d halogen light list to exaggarate :) )

Team house living rooms, can gather there:
http://www.en.ibisalsoft.com/entityfile ... ic3/14.jpg
http://www.3dlabz.com/images/3d-renderi ... m2-big.jpg

You could manage all game servers from the home apartment. When you are in there with buddys, everybody can press esc > quick bar menu appears > roll your mouse over 'games' and dropdown menu appears and pick 'TM servers'. Click it and it opens up window that shows all TM servers. So when you are gathered to somewhere, hang with team or by yourselve in streets in the maniaworld, you hit esc and go to serverlist and can see TM, SM, etc server list and join from the world to there. And if you are playing SM in server, you hit esc and can see SM serverlist while playing.
If you only have 2 real life friends there and no team, you can buy 3 room house, move all in there as friend group and it works almost same like with a team, can manage+communicate in house, start up your game in the house, etc live connection
So its kind of virtual middle area between games.

### Buddy settings:

- Buddy page:
esc > bar menu opens > scroll to buddy logo > click buddy and buddy page opens.
To give simple visualization, all your buddy caracters are lined similar to this in there:
http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18j56nl ... iginal.jpg
http://www.co-optimus.com/images/upload ... gamers.jpg

- There is panel or text options for each buddy to go deeper into stats. Buttons like mail, chat, send map. Panel could also show straight away is he online / where playing / GPS and land if hes in the maniaworld and other online stats.

http://sheattack.com/myblog/wp-content/ ... s-list.jpg
^- In buddy room could be in line or groups, can scroll

In the panel could be also 'connection button' to see connection between you and the player, like when both plays SM so you can see how many times you have hitted each other, how many times you have won him and similar connections between buddy. You can mark player into your maniaworld ingame GPS, so you can locate him from map by gps icon and go to meet. can set on/off visibility still.


http://media.rockstargames.com/rockstar ... 031127.jpg
^- The player card statics at panel, could be many more and deeper fun ones too.

- If you like to play with certain few people, you can move into their place if they let and start live in their house, so always when you connect to the game your apartment is in there. Later if you progress to big team, you can move to the big teams house and you might live in many different places when you progress in the world.

- If you have house that has 2 rooms. You can invite your beginner friend there and you have room mate and can help him and join servers together from there.

- You have this kind of apartment with 2-4 rooms, and your buddys can move into there with you, when they start the game they all start from that house:
http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2733/4421 ... 952c_z.jpg

So you can give your beginner friend your apartment address and he can join there and you can virtually help him in there.
Workings how he could move to same apartment: Give him the address where you live in world > like "surfroad 10 A" > when he creates his account he can type the address to location slot > account is created and he has home in the same house with you (but you have to have house with 2 rooms atleast). So when the beginner first time connects > is in zoomed out position main screen > and presses the home > is transported to the home room and you are already there in the room and can guide him through voice/text chat and what to do. You can select and settle what server to join together in the room and then join in. Then play, then get out from the game and both comes back to home room, So you can move in the system together.

- When creating your account, you can select your city/home from availability list. Some areas are more occupied and cant buy homes from there until some moves away. Could also be "random" if you dont want any specific home and game chooses your home.


### Communications/connections:

- You can chat with your caracter with text or voice in the world.

- When you are in the maniaworld streets and see a guy you can use shoutbox style chat to communicate. Very simple idea could be, when you type text to chat and hit enter, shoutbox apperas from your mouth that shows the text and you read it.
http://www.kvaak.fi/images/articles/240 ... 3641-0.jpg

- Shortcuts in the game: When you are in the streets walking, and press esc, bar appears to up or down. Sideways scrollable list and theres gamelist, profile, tools, mail with logo buttons. When you are at streets and want to play TM, press esc > downbar appears > scroll to games > click TM logo and play. So it would have shortcuts and you can switch through it from TM to SM straight and to maniaplanet world.

Buttons have logos (+text):
https://help.ea.com/servlet/rtaImage?ei ... 000000PL9T

Detailed menu in tools section
http://community.pcgamingwiki.com/uploa ... _70565.jpg

- Buddy chat, like mirc channel window and can select players to chat for from right

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### Random mix of ideas / Part 1. Many could be easily skipped and use basic principle instead, these are just to extend the imagination and describe the atmosphere than ideas itself:

- If want, can zoom out to space view and look down to earth > spin the earth ball > click some land and transport quickly to different locations
- If somebody is only stadium player and you are only SM player, you can still have connection to that person through the maniaworld. You can locate his home, see him in the streets or in other occasions. So can still hang outside the favourite game if want
- If there would be quite free demo, the citys could have full life 24h.

- Cars
- Car shops in towns. You can buy cars and sell,exchange cars through there. You pay with your planets. To locate shop from map, Press esc > downbar menu appears > click map > city subway map appears > find car shop logo from map > click on it and player appears in car shop like in some other games is, or you can drive there if you want to. When you are in, you select car from list and buy it. Because the world would not be so competitive and more of virtual world, maybe could buy faster cars and tuned engine cars which costs more, so there are different cars in street. Only nadeo could release fast cars to make cars have value. Maybe some special offer nights, like ug shop sells for 1 day special fast car and theres only 3 of them in the whole world, limited supply. So eventually the car would gain value in the game, because there no more any made and they are only copies in the whole future, maybe could have light damage % so can crash it quite much still and keep value.
- Subway map to quickly go shop:
http://i.computer-bild.de/imgs/1/6/7/5/ ... 6b8096.jpg
- Boats, small airplanes. Flying in the island:
http://ronanwills.files.wordpress.com/2 ... .jpg?w=625

- The world could have "flexibility" like in reality, you could do sneaky tricks in there to gain profit, to have bit real world flexibility. Like earn cash in bit "wrong ways" too and other. Maybe some other, for very simple example, like if somebody has not locked his boat or a car, you can take it and keep it. Then the player has to buy another from shop and if he dont have money have to wait until has played to increase bank, so same type small crazy plots. Maybe cars have register number and you can see if you see it and try to take back and battle in the streets while taking it.

- The world could progress, new places opens in the world in half or some year between, new houses, new parks, ideas, new things to buy with planets

- Another option instead of world, the whole world could be only big city. If players lives in high apartment buildings they can be layered and everybody could fit there. The city could expand when need more space.
http://blacklemag.com/wp-content/upload ... -final.jpg
http://p1.pichost.me/i/12/1347096.jpg

- Random detail could be: House business -> if you go high in system and gain lot of planets, you can buy many extra buildings and dominate areas. Then player who buys new house for himself might buy one that you own and you get the planets + some extra that he pays. Then the newly in moved player can later sell the house and he gets planets + extra. So the planets would circle in round. Still cant set too high price because nobody buys then, but still can have room to have more higher price to get extra.

- Driving around inside car:
http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/cQ6Q6JK8cWI/hqdefault.jpg
http://media.t3.com/img/resized/fa/xl_F ... _3_624.jpg

- So the overall idea could be very light, like a earth that shows players around the world and buddies, maybe not even gameplay at all.
Or the idea could be medium, like there is third person view world.
Or the idea could be thicker, bit freeworld gameplay, the planet has strategy building type thing combined with third person free world and own minimal plot gameplay in the world

- Just random fun detail: If you havent played like a half of year and you run out of your rent, you get transfered to some poorer areas:
http://www.gamefreaks.co.nz/wp-content/ ... -3-009.jpg
^- And that comes your starting home, until you gain enough money to buy better home from other area. And there could be other ways to gain money than playing games, so you could gradually build up in the world by staying active in different ways. Having a shop could be good, you sell custom made houses and you get money, or when you make track you get some royalties when its used on server. And other ideas to gain planets and have depth to the money balance.

- Minimally animated animals in some woods and tropic islands. Like cow slowly walks in grass field and some other animals in random places

- Can manage and delete your belongins. For example delete your existing car and buy another one. Choose 'manage' and you see icon list of all your stuff.

- Pic: Country side. The wooden house could hold up 3 players.
http://www.wallibs.com/gudang/novas-fot ... sagens.jpg

- In GPS you can mark your favourite places in map, like favourite teams buildings, good game spots, friend houses and they are shown like icons in corner GPS.

- Airplane. Could buy or use airplane and fly. Simple physics to lear like driving a stadium car but in the air
http://duuro.net/wp-content/uploads/201 ... shot02.jpg

- City:
http://blog.dk.sg/wp-content/uploads/20 ... DUVtOg.png


### Random mix of ideas / Part2: Buyable extension, buying, selling, renting (with planets):

- Player maybe could buy paintball gun and play around with it in the streets. (But personally if i would do it, i would add pg8 guns and elimination to the world, so you can have random fights in the streets too, and theres bad guys

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-eURB2HgAAjc/U ... 46x325.jpg
^- like there could be some 'bad guys' in the maniaworld too, not bad guys in a sense, but for depth. Like somebody has builded own gang place to some woods, then when you go there you might get shot, but then you can try to get there like a commando. Or teams can invade other teams mansion if they have gates open. With your 'street gang' team you go together their base mansion and try to sneak in and invade -type of fights. But again just random examples
- Fights in island
http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/187k4j2 ... iginal.jpg

- One extension game inside the world could be racing battle inside the city.
There are ready marked "maps" inside the city. Players follows the guide line and race.

- Wider country sides to cruise around and explore. Maybe have racing battle on the street:
http://secure.ztorm.net/local/api/1.0/m ... 587715.jpg

- Random detail, Trains: One city could include 1-2 trains that moves in patterned route 24h.
http://cache.desktopnexus.com/thumbnail ... mbnail.jpg


### Something:

- When you start the game, you are almost always 'ingame'. Because the maniaplanet itself is a game, so when you come in and see the earth you are kind of in already. When you quit TM, you come back to the maniaplanet earth and you are back again. So the maniaworld would be the main menu

- You could use maniaworld to simply communicate to friends and others. Like if you dont specifically want to play SM or TM but still want to stay in connection with your team+mp buddies, you can idle in the maniaworld.
For one instance, you have team, you have home in their team house. You start the game > and click home > player appear in the team apartment. From there you can see what all your team members are doing, are they offline/online, what playing, are they moving in the world. Some might be in the apartment same time and you can meet up, settle a game and start. You can keep the maniaworld in zoomed out position and keep the caracter in idle in the room. If you have left your game in zoomed out position and do other things on computer, team mates can poke you in the game and you get little balloon message in taskbar in your windows. Then you open game and zoom into your home and buddies are in the room and can talk to them and start doing things, go to server, etc. Maybe also option to alert when buddy joins the game and appears to room. So you can idle in the apartment and wait
Zoomed out position, maybe could zoom out more so its small ball too:
http://www.wallpapersfreedesktop.com/up ... papers.jpg

- Some of the gameplay could be like 'background game' that you manage in the background while playing, you go play SM, then come back manage your world, then play more SM and manage

(All ideas are just addons and a basic virtual world could work better.)

- Fun park. Somebody can buy it and make incomings with visitors:
http://photocult.com.ua/media/2012/12/0 ... 2f_XXL.jpg
^- Like the roller coaster goes around in a loop there, stops for moment and you can hop into there and sits down and have ride theme park style

- The earth could have completely different looking lands. So theres citys, country side lands, ruff areas, ghettos, winter, woods, islands, rivers.
Ruff areas:
http://www.todleho.com/ppl/file/pic/gallery/446.jpg

- Adventures in the world:
http://wallpaperforcomputer.net/uploads ... 52x864.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-s-LKqGBXCA8/U ... 3+Dive.jpg

- Ads in the street: Sometimes could come offerings and then ads of it to the streets. In some wall there is big ad board, like you get 20% off from SM price if you pay 20 000 planets or similar. Offers about things happening in the world, car sales, buy a boat for 80 000..

http://i1-news.softpedia-static.com/ima ... 1378822169
^- Could locate places, seek for icons to locate shop or other like usually. Could come with esc > downbar appears > scroll + select "map". Map opens, little icons in map, like shops, team buildings, car shops, nadeo center, home. Teams could buy a license to have custom logo in their team mansion and town if they have afford. The little games, like football could have own logo also and detail how many players, so you can seek logos and teleport there where others are playing football and join.

- All the players who are connected could be small little dots when zooming out to the max the start screen earth. And the light colour indicates are they playing or in world, when you zoom in the dots disappear. So you could see all the players in one earth.
Simply visualisation:
http://www.lsdimension.com/wp-content/u ... hnight.jpg

- One random addon could be, players could buy hotels and houses, and create monopolys running citys. So some players could almost own some portion city, when you buy from his shops or use services he gets money. So some player can run monopoly almost, if he starts to decrease some other can buy hes buildings and 'battle' the city monopoly.
http://wallsave.com/wallpapers/1920x120 ... 731874.jpg
^- Player has boguht all the long houses from that city area, costs alot planets. If somebody buys apartment from hes house he gets profit. And he uses the planet again to other things.

- Matchmaking systems inside the world:
- You can approach a player or group and suggest a match. You accept it and game begins. You come back where you were in the world and come back like from match making.

- If you have lots of money, like 150 000 planets, you could buy house shop and set offerings and have a "background job". So if somebody buys from your shop, you get the money. So while you are not playing you might still receive and gain money in there if somebody buys houses from your shop. Maybe maps could have royalties, everytime you make map and server puts it in use, nadeo gives royalties to your bank account of every match like 10planets. So the admins dont lose or can get bankrupt when the planets comes main bank. So mappers could gain some little money with maps too and have little pay back.

- I dont know about executing any of these stuff. But i could think theres lag, theres many players and jitter. But as a simple mind i would think splitting the core system into many small servers could make sense i dont know, similar split systems around world. USA goes automatically to usa server but still is live connected to the same earth where is europe people. And all the local servers are connected to the maniaplanet core earth servers But i dont know because i dont know anything these stuffs :)

- Just detail, the world could have own randomly changing atmosphere:
http://spaceinimages.esa.int/var/esa/st ... ission.jpg
- Script changes the weather condititions in 24h scale slowly, and the script is in random mode so you dont know whats tomorrow.

- Spin the earth, zoom in, click 'sunset city' icon and go to town:
http://creativesessions.s3.amazonaws.co ... bombed.jpg

- If possible in some way, could import own made 3d houses and designs and objects to the maniaworld. So you can build very personal paradises.
http://futuristicnews.com/wp-content/up ... rch-02.jpg

- The important thing would be to make it big thing, huge amount of people, all gathered into the one community center world. To get near that, there could be half free demo to the maniaplanet that lets you explore the world quite much and it keeps people register into the maniaplanet when they can play it freely enough. Then when more and more people have their "base" and home in maniaworld, in the heart core of all games, they are already in, everybody gets the news of new games etc, they belong to the scene. I think most of players are usually interested of some game when hes friends are playing it, rather than seeking new games from magaznies, so when everybodys friends has maniaplanet because its 'half free' he hypes to friends and they can play too straight away and it becomes big.

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OK!
What mostly got me think it would be really cool, is the 'social portal' feel, you have the main body and can have virtual meetings, virtual groups and the core system is a living thing.
If its completely impossible for nadeo, maybe some other company stumbles to this topic and inspires to something. I just felt good idea wasted if its not posted to public :)

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TLDR :p^?
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tl;dr: Maniaplanet concept reimagined as Second Life :lol: I didn't read much, just skimmed through the pictures, this is so huge and fundamental, props tro you. if Nadeo ever decided to make this and started right now, they'd release the alpha around year 2025 or so.
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Yes tldr ;) Usually i write all the goodies & then cut the stuff to half, this time i dont have time right now to choose what to keep, so i let it all in

Oh, i have not heard of second life, I think its very close, what i thought first was sims kind of. Virtual social portal between the games, everybody are 3d bodys in the world and can meet & stuff, team can have building where they all live, etc..I think it would be cool bonus to start up the game inside yours team house and some members can be online there too, then just settle a game, etc.. But yes, very close to second life :)
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What you're describing is mostly 200x the actual game in code. It's impossible. SM and TM would be ridiculous compared to this huge world.

(congratulations for having wrote all of this, very very impressive) :thumbsup:
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I've read until #teamhouses then I gave up :mrgreen:

Only to create the OBJECTS would require 2 lifes :lol:

I admire your endurance to create such a detailed concept for a world which will probably never exist :/
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Sure guys, thats what i said :lol:
So as a foreword 'warning' i say that if it sounds big & crazy, i know ;D But then i had a feel i dont want to waste it either, because i liked the concept alot. It would probably take nadeo whole lifetime to do even the basics and the engine probably couldnt handle maybe, but then again it just text ;D
But, virtual world as an idea is not really new at all. When i wrote the idea, I wanted to collect "what there could be" example topics, how it could fit into maniaplanet like core portal with virtual world.
If nadeo would forget everything that is written and build it into realism using their standards, im sure it would work, thats what i kept in my mind while writing and thats why i didnt want to waste the concept.

Like if the world/city would be small & simple, the workings would not be much more than Shootmania is now when you think about it, thats where the inspiration originally came from: I was hanging in the server just playing around with buddys, not shooting or anything, just fooling around and chatting. Then i thought why not have this type of vibe when you start the maniapllanet; you are connected from the beginning to your friends in virtual bodys and hanging around, then going to a server. Then thinking about the word "maniaplanet" how it would really fit for this type of community based game.
While writing the inspirtation, it evolved to massive thing, but anybody who has understanding should understand what they are capable of doing and adjust their mindset & reading according to that, sheeps follows and walks, lions runs and chases :thumbsup:

But ofcourse, i dont care that much for the idea, i just want to defend that im not that brainless to suggest nadeo to do ALL of this stuff ;)
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The first post was the concept without limits, to inspire it to max, now when i got inspired how it could be made in more realistic manner, i will write few assumptions.

Lets say the engine is same like in SM, but from 3rd person view:

Examples for maniaworld or maniacity:

- Maniaworld:
- There are 3-5 citys in the world: each city is 500x500 map built by nadeo. Surrounded by heavyer fog in the long distance to make it less for CPU. You can drive to your buddy house / walk / whatever in the city. Free world.
- When you want to go another city, it loads the another map.
- Each person has home in one of the buildings. Each person gets unique home automatically when creating the account. Each person gets a car too.
- Nadeo has made team house portions to the city, players can buy a slot room with planets and invite team mates to the same apartment (with monthly planet cost.)
- Etc..

- Maniacity:
- One 5000x5000 map built by nadeo. Surrounded by long distance fog to make it less for CPU.

- To make few more ideas into the world, the first post includes many example ideas. Maybe could shoot, maybe could do lot of things & have fun, etc details..

But yeah, its not that important idea, but its not really that unrealistic either :)
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