Siege maptype with Checkpoint support

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Siege maptype with Checkpoint support

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Hey Guys,

I've build a Siege map with the SiegeV2Arena maptype which was also set as default in the siege titlepack.
The map is finished so far, but I can't assign checkpoints to gates. If I click in the "block properties" mode on the checkpoint block, it says "This anchor is not editable". So I can't use a checkpoint to capture a gate...(Thats how it is on most other siege maps).

I'm not sure if I did something wrong or if it's a bug. I've already tried to download the maptype from Github (this one) and replace it with the default one, but I still get the same message.

Is there a solution to fix this problem? or can a I get a working maptype from somewhere else?

Thanks for your help!
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Re: Siege Maptype malfunction?

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Well, Nadeo changed Siege a lot with the MP3 update, they disabled the function to use CPs, instead they wanted us to use the gates. Using CPs is only possible with Hexeditors, I once heard an explenation, it isn't very convinient...
Maybe you can ask somebody who already built Siege maps with CPs instead of gates to do it for you (or explain it to you)

The fact that nearly all popular maps use still use CPs, should make Nadeo worry a bit, wether the SiegeV2 was a good or a bad change to the Siege gamemode...
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Re: Siege Maptype malfunction?

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I asked a few people in the siege community and found a way to get it working.
You need a special script and need to modify the map with a hex-editor afterwards. This is really annoying.

It would be great if NADEO could give us a script where you can also use checkpoints to capture a gate. Nearly all official maps (paragon league) are using this system. Doing a lot of unnecessary steps is not what we want in the editor. I think it's also not in the interest of NADEO that we need to "hack" maps to make them working. A working script should be an easy solution.
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Re: Siege Maptype malfunction?

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considering that the siege game mode script looks for landmarks with the tag "Goal"
can't a modified maptype script just change the "Checkpoint" tags to "Goal" and allow editing them just like goals? without the need to modify the map with a hex editor

or am i missing something? it's late after all :P
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    Re: Siege Maptype malfunction?

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    I did a small maptype ( based on Melee ).

    You need to rename Checkpoints, Gates, Spawns and Goals.

    Checkpoint to Gate [ 1 - 8 *];
    Gate [ 1 - 8 *];
    Goal [ Same order of the last SpawnDefense ];
    SpawnDefense [ 1 - 9 *];
    SpawnAttack;

    * max of Gates / Goals.

    Just download the maptype https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/016 ... Script.txt
    and put in "Scripts/MapTypes/ShootMania"

    EDIT: Build the map in Storm Station! Not Siege station!
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    Re: Siege Maptype malfunction?

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    Nice :thumbsup:
    Are the maps that are built with this script compatible with normal Siege servers ?
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    trueWohoohi wrote:Nice :thumbsup:
    Are the maps that are built with this script compatible with normal Siege servers ?
    Yup!
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    Thanks Guerro! I already tested it and it worked :thumbsup: But still sad that it's not possible with the official maptype
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    Siege maptype with Checkpoint support

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    I got a new version of the maptype which is the same as the official one, but it supports checkpoints as gates.

    Remember: You have to build the map in the Storm Title

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/dbtl1j22wgvj6 ... t.txt?dl=0
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