what's bothering me is the fall-off rate of the bounce light.
Look at this pic: http://www.vinummusik.de/Trackmania2/Fo ... tgrass.jpg
If the stadium car were let's say 1 meter high then the most upper block in that pic would be at an altitude of about 120m. And the strength of the bounce light at that altitude is almost as strong as the bounce light at ground level....that's just not how physics works!
[B3.1][Stadium] Air cushion gives light
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Re: [B3.1][Stadium] Air cushion gives light
unless the bottom of those blocks is reflecting light a lot, nearly like mirrors.
It looks like they forgot to add the effect of athmospheric attenuation here, or the air of the Stadium is 100% pure
It looks like they forgot to add the effect of athmospheric attenuation here, or the air of the Stadium is 100% pure

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Re: [B3.1][Stadium] Air cushion gives light
Idd.. It is very realistic but maybe exagerated at some levels
Anyway... I don't see a problem on having green blocks 


Re: [B3.1][Stadium] Air cushion gives light
Looking at your picture, I must agree. It seems not very realisticHawkGer wrote:....that's just not how physics works!

Re: [B3.1][Stadium] Air cushion gives light
Please stop complaining
You can use block 7-8-1 below the block 5-2-1 and then there will be no green, only a bit blue

You can use block 7-8-1 below the block 5-2-1 and then there will be no green, only a bit blue

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it's feedback, not complaints...
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Re: [B3.1][Stadium] Air cushion gives light
HawkGer, you forget that the only area the light can reflect from is the ground. And the Green area is so big that only the green light is reflected. So it's not unrealistic at all.
How else should the light get on the lower side of these platform blocks?
How else should the light get on the lower side of these platform blocks?
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Re: [B3.1][Stadium] Air cushion gives light
yeah those blocks on the lower level probably receive not as much bounce light as those on the upper levels so the effect of the fall-off rate is diminished. Sorry for my poor physics skills and that useless post 

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Re: [B3.1][Stadium] Air cushion gives light
Indeed, the light bounce is usually increased by a scale factor (to enhance the visual effect), in many mood cases the scale factor is 2.0 or bigger, maybe it's too high.Ranzou wrote:Trackmania and realisticIt's ok if they emit some light, but that green is way overpowered, it distracts from the race. TMNF didn't have this reflection from the air cushions which was better imo, but like i said its ok if they emit a bit of light just not this much. On certain track pieces like walls etc it doesnt distract, but on the trackpieces itself it is just horrible.
Could you tell in what mood have been taken the screen shot, please ?
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