Questions and answers

[moledig]

TM2 Canyons (MP 4 update, when everything broke)

1. When will favorite servers come back?
2. When will custom car skins work again?
3. When will custom horns work again?
4. Why did the car handling change?
5. When will ladder rank be fixed? (it is incorrect on the score screen but correct in the scrolling banner)



Thanks,
This has been a bad spring and summer so far.
They release an update to Mania planet that trashes all the good parts of Canyons.
DISH Network also released and "upgrade" that ruined my DVR, its so slow and ugly now.
We (USA) have a mad man for a president and all my stress relievers are being broken!

[Alinoa]

Hi,

Regarding your questions,
1. it's on the to do
2. and 3. Custom skins and horns already work (so please explain in the report forums which issue do you encounter:viewforum.php?f=470
Keeth posted a video for having horns working here: viewtopic.php?p=280054#p280054
5. It works for me. So please post a report with screenshots in the reports forums as well: viewforum.php?f=470

And regarding the USA election and the politics in general, my belief is to stop to think that politics have all power. Many people in their own city, village, region, etc have awesome ideas and realize great projects to help people to have a better life. If you start observing what it is done and what you can do at your own level, I'm sure that will relax you

[moledig]

Thanks for the reply,

I will look into posting in the other forum, you seem to be part of the few lucky ones that skins and horns are still working for after the MP 4 update.
(But I suspect they are not really working for you. You may be able to see your skin and hear your horn but other can't)

All my friends and most of the people that I have talked to in game are having trouble seeing other people custom skins and they only hear the default horn. I did note this last week that one person on my server had a customer car skin and found out that it had come from the online store but the rest of us that have skins painted in the editor can't been seen by others.

As far as ladder ranking goes have a closer look next time your in game.....
If you look at the header where your ladder rank is scrolling it is correct.
But if you are in game and you bring up the score screen you will note the your ladder rank listed next to your name is different. (incorrect).
If it is correct join a different server and check again you will notice it has changed.

[Alcator]

Question: A recent update completely screwed up block geometry in TM Platform (Canyon - Platform mode). The car is now dropping through (invisible) surfaces.

I'm pretty sure this is just corrupted files, so, my question is this: How do I reinstall Platform? I'm looking for the ManiaPlanet's equivalent of Steam's "Verify integrity of game cache" functionality.

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Also, now that MS Edge has replaced MS Internet Explorer on many people's computers, I wonder if others are also having the problem that internet links in ManiaPlanet - such as the "HELP" link in the game menu, or the "BUY ... " button in the store - lead to an empty/start page, instead of to the intended web site. I've reported this as a bug on June 16th, but no response was received.

[eyebo]

Question: A recent update completely screwed up block geometry in TM Platform (Canyon - Platform mode). The car is now dropping through (invisible) surfaces.

I'm pretty sure this is just corrupted files, so, my question is this: How do I reinstall Platform? I'm looking for the ManiaPlanet's equivalent of Steam's "Verify integrity of game cache" functionality.

Hi Alcator,

The files aren't corrupted, they're just not updated yet.

Nadeo needs to upgrade the maps, update the titlepack, and push out a new copy of Platform, probably using Canyon Maker. I don't know if this is in their plans or not. They updated most of the ShootMania titlepacks, so I have to assume they will at some point.

However, in the meantime, you can get copies of the Platform campaign maps on Mania Exchange which are updated to ManiaPlanet 4. They haven't all been play tested, so it's possible they also have some unforeseen issues. But they should work better than the ones in the old titlepack. Be sure to download and play the map itself though, not against the outdated replays, or else you'll run into the same issues as before.

[Alcator]

Question: A recent update completely screwed up block geometry in TM Platform (Canyon - Platform mode). The car is now dropping through (invisible) surfaces.

I'm pretty sure this is just corrupted files, so, my question is this: How do I reinstall Platform? I'm looking for the ManiaPlanet's equivalent of Steam's "Verify integrity of game cache" functionality.

Hi Alcator,

The files aren't corrupted, they're just not updated yet.

Nadeo needs to upgrade the maps, update the titlepack, and push out a new copy of Platform, probably using Canyon Maker. I don't know if this is in their plans or not. They updated most of the ShootMania titlepacks, so I have to assume they will at some point.

However, in the meantime, you can get copies of the Platform campaign maps on Mania Exchange which are updated to ManiaPlanet 4. They haven't all been play tested, so it's possible they also have some unforeseen issues. But they should work better than the ones in the old titlepack. Be sure to download and play the map itself though, not against the outdated replays, or else you'll run into the same issues as before.

You misunderstand: My custom Platform map, which worked perfectly fine for years, now has fall-through surfaces in it.

[adamkooo2]

Solution:
Load it in editor, compute shadows and save

[eyebo]

Oh sorry, I misunderstood then. Still, I'm pretty sure your files aren't corrupted if you're able to open the map at all. Regardless if the maps are yours or in the campaign, they have to be updated first. You can't just open and play them. Yes, they worked fine for years. But in May we got the ManiaPlanet 4 update which changed block geometries and required every map to be updated. MX has already completed updating all 115,000+ maps. So if your map was uploaded on MX, there's a good chance it's already updated there.

If you've already updated the maps to MP4, and it still has holes, then is it possible you used tm2unlimiter when creating it all those years ago? Unfortunately, blockmixing using that older hacky method doesn't translate well when maps are converted to MP4. I ended up rebuilding an entire trial map because of it.

[Alcator]

Oh sorry, I misunderstood then. Still, I'm pretty sure your files aren't corrupted if you're able to open the map at all. Regardless if the maps are yours or in the campaign, they have to be updated first. You can't just open and play them. Yes, they worked fine for years. But in May we got the ManiaPlanet 4 update which changed block geometries and required every map to be updated. MX has already completed updating all 115,000+ maps. So if your map was uploaded on MX, there's a good chance it's already updated there.

If you've already updated the maps to MP4, and it still has holes, then is it possible you used tm2unlimiter when creating it all those years ago? Unfortunately, blockmixing using that older hacky method doesn't translate well when maps are converted to MP4. I ended up rebuilding an entire trial map because of it.

The trick with opening the map in editor, computing shadows and saving it again worked.
I would have loved to post my maps on MX, but alas, Platform isn't welcome there (or at least last time I tried in 2016, it would not accept Platform tracks).

Why the hell did they have to go and change the Stadium track surface into a glossy mirror...
Why change big dirty yellow booster triangles into silly arrows...

Instead of fixing the cut intro clips bug...

[eyebo]

I would have loved to post my maps on MX, but alas, Platform isn't welcome there (or at least last time I tried in 2016, it would not accept Platform tracks).

Hmm, there's plenty of Platform TP maps. Even some of yours.
https://tm.mania-exchange.com/tracksear ... k=Platform

MX doesn't support Platform in the same way TMX United did, with penalties for respawns and such. But it should work as a normal map.