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Re: Beta 2 feedback topic

Posted: 21 Dec 2012, 11:27
by Teardrop
Clock wrote:REPLAYS/DEMO RECORDING

- Probably the first thing that needs to be fixed/changed is this. Replays and demos are keys to competitive play. It is vital to be able to watch your games and figure out your mistakes in order to get better both individually and as a team. I should be able to record a match-long replay that encompasses every players point of view, I should then be able to toggle between anyone at any given time and also watch an overhead/third person view with the press of a button I should be able to pause, rewind and fast-forward the replays. Right now the replay editor is incredibly complicated to use and you only have the option of saving individual rounds, which still is sometimes spotty/does not work. This MUST be fixed.
There's an option to automatically save all your games. But I agree that having one replay per round is not ideal.

By the way, have you tried the new "Simple Editor" to analyze your replay? One button to switch your POV, one button to switch your camera. Can't be simpler.

Re: Beta 2 feedback topic

Posted: 21 Dec 2012, 12:02
by Patriot1
I have only question about a matter that other thousand things that no longer work, I to don't it now.
Who's idea was this very ugly button ?
Is there anyone other than the inventor who they like ?

Re: Beta 2 feedback topic

Posted: 21 Dec 2012, 12:12
by weku
I'd love to see the replay system work fluently, or 1 record per 1 game (which sounds way better).
Also I love the twitch implement, just try to get it work properly (stream shuts down automatically every now and then)

Footsteps need to be changed asap, there's nothing worse than a competitive game that you are as good without sound and with sound.

There should be a way to take the notifications off (busy doesnt work)

Other than that good job, and maybe nadeo staff should try to hang out at irc #shootmania or #sm.invite, because many of the good players don't hang around here.

WEku

Re: Beta 2 feedback topic

Posted: 21 Dec 2012, 12:27
by niarfman
Patriot1 wrote:I have only question about a matter that other thousand things that no longer work, I to don't it now.
Who's idea was this very ugly button ?
Is there anyone other than the inventor who they like ?
Hylis has already replied about it here : http://forum.maniaplanet.com/viewtopic. ... 0&start=10
Hylis wrote:the goal is to reduce loading time

when clicking on solo, a replay can be loaded to give the feeling of getting somewhere, like in Raid campaign.

the 3D thing is a start, and as you may observe, it is a full 3D, not gimmick on buttons. It is for VR in 10 years :p No, there are reasons, so wait to see how it evolves. And people who says "nobody" loves or hate something are exagerating in a way I dislike ;)

Re: Beta 2 feedback topic

Posted: 21 Dec 2012, 14:05
by Oyster
pksens wrote:Hylis- regarding the balance:

Problems:
a) An attacker who successfully shoots at a target, who's spamming rockets with little hope of hitting you can get away with ridiculous amounts of +0's, the attacker is robbed from his kill. Sometimes he might even hit multiple times yet be rewarded with nothing, a bad position, more defenders in his face, etc.
This is an real problem!

Also nucleus (on siege) is now useless weapon because of this new feature. Nucleuses are so slow that you can easily take them down even on close range and then shoot defender. I think it would be good that you can't destroy nucleuses with laser at all.

Also fix sounds. Can't hear a shit even though opponent is next to you.

Re: Beta 2 feedback topic

Posted: 21 Dec 2012, 14:12
by TMarc
Oyster wrote:Also fix sounds. Can't hear a shit even though opponent is next to you.
Sound fix is in work, it looks it is more complex to solve actually :oops:

Re: Beta 2 feedback topic

Posted: 21 Dec 2012, 15:40
by Patriot1
niarfman wrote:
Patriot1 wrote:I have only question about a matter that other thousand things that no longer work, I to don't it now.
Who's idea was this very ugly button ?
Is there anyone other than the inventor who they like ?
Hylis has already replied about it here : http://forum.maniaplanet.com/viewtopic. ... 0&start=10
Hylis wrote:the goal is to reduce loading time

when clicking on solo, a replay can be loaded to give the feeling of getting somewhere, like in Raid campaign.

the 3D thing is a start, and as you may observe, it is a full 3D, not gimmick on buttons. It is for VR in 10 years :p No, there are reasons, so wait to see how it evolves. And people who says "nobody" loves or hate something are exagerating in a way I dislike ;)
Thanks, but I can not search the countless topics through until I find somewhere after 5 h the right answer, this time I did not.
Moreover Alinoa wrote in another theme that we are here to give this our feedback.
It looks anyway, no matter what excuse ugly.

Another point of this ingame is tremendously annoying Notification !
Man struggling just the decisive battle or is on his best lap, then folded that thing down, showing something to what you can not read anyway so fast and brings you totally out of focus.
It just unspeakable bothers !

Re: Beta 2 feedback topic

Posted: 21 Dec 2012, 15:47
by Alinoa
For information, if you want to discuss about the new Beta 2 gameplay on ShootMania Storm, please do it on the topic started by Hylis here.
Thank you :)

Re: Beta 2 feedback topic

Posted: 21 Dec 2012, 16:54
by Forgot10
Teardrop wrote: There's an option to automatically save all your games. But I agree that having one replay per round is not ideal.
Really? Back in the day automatic replay saving only saved the very last round of an Elite match.

Having to save every replay manually is not good, because not everyone has good memory. :?

Re: Beta 2 feedback topic

Posted: 21 Dec 2012, 18:20
by bosnak
I just wanted to share this as well here: http://www.reddit.com/r/Shootmania/comm ... _feedback/

To include Elite perspectives for any game mode ideas.