Official Petition we need Unlimiter Tool

[phil13hebert]

it's funny cuz nadeo had their own Unlimiter

Source please ?

[The_Big_Boo]

To test new blocks easily and this kind of stuff, there is indeed an "unlimiter" option in the development version of ManiaPlanet. It's common for game developers to have such options (which sometimes stay and then called cheat codes).

[phil13hebert]

To test new blocks easily and this kind of stuff, there is indeed an "unlimiter" option in the development version of ManiaPlanet. It's common for game developers to have such options (which sometimes stay and then called cheat codes).

That's what I tought, but since Nadeo has the source code, it's easy to disable block placement check

[TMarc]

That's what I tought, but since Nadeo has the source code, it's easy to disable block placement check

This alone is perhaps easy, but then also the block connections and connection checks, some auto-terraforming, the grid snapping, 90° rotation, vertical snapping, and other things would require modification, hence lot of work to make such a unlimiter feature possible, which would only be used good by a very few number of good mappers.

[phil13hebert]

That's what I tought, but since Nadeo has the source code, it's easy to disable block placement check

This alone is perhaps easy, but then also the block connections and connection checks, some auto-terraforming, the grid snapping, 90° rotation, vertical snapping, and other things would require modification, hence lot of work to make such a unlimiter feature possible, which would only be used good by a very few number of good mappers.

Yeah I know all these things

[Kryw]

Source please ?

Saw at Nadeo Studio and that was a good unlimiter

[TMarc]

Yeah I know all these things

[MixD]

Flickering textures when blockmixing has been highlighted as one of its major problems. In early 2008 (when TMN ESWC was the only release version of Stadium) I posted about possible technical solutions in Overlapped textures glitch. Since that's a limited-access subforum, and the most interesting link has moved, here's a repost/redo. I haven't done any recent research on the issue. If Nadeo really are going to have mixmapping support in the editor, a solution to the Z-fighting should be sought.

The article Alternatives to Using Z-Bias to Fix Z-Fighting Issues suggests some fixes. If each map block had a unique depth bias which was inherited by each of the block's polygons, that could be one resolution. If the depth bias was the block's position in the map's block list it would guarantee uniqueness and would also allow the map author straightforward control over which block is more visible.

For reference, the article addresses these methods:
- Z Bias
- Projection Matrix
- Viewport
- Depth Bias

[Demented]

It seems like that should be a fairly easy to implement solution for a programmer.