Is This Game worth Buying? (Dead?)

[Omnixor]

just interested to see at least one person who is interested in maniaplanet, canyon updates, futute titles and such, but doesn't own TM² now

[tcq]

just interested to see at least one person who is interested in maniaplanet, canyon updates, futute titles and such, but doesn't own TM² now

My unborn child. I mean what kind of answer do you except in his forum, were all people are gathered that already are interested in this game? If you want an answer to this, go and ask in other "not TM"-related forums.
You can still express your opinion, but then you need to do it in a educated way. Not just telling, I hate it and it will suck. But tell, why you think it sucks or will suck. You did this only in this one statement here.

A game can't be "born" (I mean gaining popularity) one year or later after release. The only people who really care about TM² and its future titles have already bought the game. You really think that valley/3rd title will have more sold copies than canyon? I doubt it. About SM - well, people who play TM now might buy SM. New people, who are going to buy SM, imho are only interested in FPS itself, not in TM or anything else.

I can understand your point of view, but I don't agree with it (nice to be in a democracy ). In my opinion, this game is worth buying, if you are at least interested in own of the following areas:
Racing (competition and casual), map building, movie creation, server-managment, skinning, scripting (this part will be more important with MP2.0), 3D-Modelling and and and.

just interested to see at least one person who is interested in future titles

And about the player increase with new titles, like SM and QM. There will surely be a minority/majority of people that might get infected and see huge possibilities this platform offers, but there will be players.
Think about the following. If Valley comes out, at that moment there is the possibility to advertise with functions that were not available at the canyon release (e.g. the game mode scripting). And the possibility is high, that players that like one environment are going for at least one other environment of the same category (canyon players might by valley, while valley players might by canyon). Maybe you will be able to create complete new stuff with the "all environment editor" (if the possibility stays to play canyon maps in storm and the other way around.) While the further will attract new players which intend to create their own game, the latter one will be a possibility to tempt players that own only one title to test at least the other titles. Could maybe be done with a demo as an appetiser. Who knows? We don't know, maybe Nadeo doesn't know yet. But you can't say that a game is dead before it is completely released. With this I mean the whole ManiaPlanet platform. There are still so many possibilities ways that this concept can go. As you see (because arc proved it), a basis for block import is already there.

Because of the points described I completely agree with Demented.

You really think that valley/3rd title will have more sold copies than canyon? I doubt it.

Yea, actually I do. Once people see the updates to Canyon and Maniaplanet and Valley comes out I think people who like racing games will find it very well worth buying. I believe the Maniplanet series will grow exponentially rather than gradually as people find out what the potential there really is.

[Omnixor]

don't know if it's true, but, imho, big majority of casual players don't care about that at all. I mean, they just want to buy a game, play for few days/weeks, and that's all. they don't care about customizing, gamemodes, even trackeditor (c'mon, from ~100k canyon players just 5k are registered on MX! and 12k on these forums.). and from these 95k players like 80k (just random number, but i think it's close to reality) don't play any more I think. what will remaining 15k players think about Valley? "oh, new DLC, i'll think about buying it".

how many entirely new players will be interested in future titles? without some huge advertising company - not more than in Canyon. Valley won't make as big hype as Canyon, because most of people don't understand the concept of MP at all. they won't think about it as a new game, rather just as DLC or something, like I already said.

I hope my opinion is clear now. and I don't say in any way that the whole thing sucks or so. it's just not my taste, it has bad performance on my laptop, and I don't believe that Nadeo will be able to make MP a really big thing. just some maniacs like you and another hundred of people who love Nadeo will keep saying that everybody just has to wait. others won't wait, they'll move on.

[Demented]

Thanks to tcq for positive feedback.

I think there is a big furure in TM2 and this is partly why:
Six world records in the Guinness World Records: Gamer's Edition 2008, including "Biggest Online Race", "Most Popular Online Racing Sim" and "Largest Content Base of Any Racing Game"
This is Nadeo's track record and I base my faith on the future of TM partly on that.

If people are looking for something to play for a short time, then throw away, you may be right. However, I like games with long lasting playability and Replay Value. TM has it. Honestly I don't really even play online. I like to create and race and this is a perfect game series for that.
Don't get me wrong Omnixor, I do respect your opinion and I'm not trying to Argue with you, just looking at things from a different point of view. There are people here who like what Nadeo is doing and people who don't. ALL Feedback fuels the future.

[Omnixor]

just one small note - all these records were achieved with TMNF, which is free; and I still love to play TMNF.

[firstdriver]

just one small note - all these records were achieved with TMNF, which is free; and I still love to play TMNF.

I've got to agree with you on this one. Where basically TMNF and TMUF are the same game, TM2 is not ... they are different games despite the similarities and TM2 must cut it's own records.

Tho I love TM, my bad experience with TM2 Canyons has certainly put me off buying any other TM2 titles until TM2 Canyons is sorted out. If this is as far as Canyons is going then I may well sell it on. I've no interest in SM and QM what-so-ever so to me they just get in the way of TM2's improvement. Saying that, each to his own ....

[eyebo]

I think we should stop worrying about the future of the game and just enjoy it while it's here. If you like the game, play it. If you don't, then go play something else.

It's Nadeo & Ubisoft who should be worrying about it's future, and I'm sure they have their eye on where it's going. They're also in this for the long hall. It's a gamble to do things the way they're doing it, to start slow and build the platform slowly until completion.

By and large, what happens to the game in the future is out of our control.

If we like the game enough to play it, we can keep things active by organizing events or at least taking part in them. And we can tell our friends about it if we think they'll enjoy it too.

But to worry about who will buy it and who won't. I really don't see that as something we need to concern ourselves with. It's an unnecessary burden to place on oneself, even to contemplate it.

[agsmtc]

Well, it's not so easy. I like the game, but there are some features (or there are missing) that make me feel disappointed. TMUF was a simpler game and easier to play.

Nadeo should think about this because if they don't fix many things I won't buy further editions of TM.

[b.dnl]

I think it WILL worth buying if there will be more game modes and enviroments. (And the MP 2.0 is awesome )

[skalamanga]

So, is this game fun/alive?

Yes and Yes. I play it everyday for probably too many hours than I should and I have even dabbled in the track editor, which is unbelievable easy to use, 17 awesome tracks to date. Today I played on a variety of servers. Some had 50 people, some had 20 people and some had 6 but they were all completely unique, very compettitive and great fun. One server had 770 tracks all different and all tremdously fun. All of the people I was racing with were courteous and complimentary.

The game is amazing in many ways and there are some flaws but that's a matter of opinion just like any other game. On top of that it is dirt cheap for the amount of content in it. So for me I couldn't be happier with Canyon.

Give it a try.