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Yes, I don't use the Manager when I want to launch a lobby, only if I want to add a map without restart the lobby.

A lobby when we will ask players to vote will be better (9-15 maps).

Dear community,
I have a new suggestion regarding the new upcoming maps and how they are selected:

First of all, Jon, I dont want to step on your toes ( so I apologize in advance ), but why is this map-selection outsourced to mania-actu? Im not saying Mania-actu is doing a bad job... So dont think that.

I just think if NADEO would help it would work better. ( without mania-actu )
Let me explain a bit more , but first I wanna say that MAPS are a very very very important aspect of the game.
A game can not be good if the maps are bad.

NADEO should run the map-selection process.
- Better social media ( more people will know about upcoming changes to the mappool or about votes/polls/testers )
--> Post something on the Shootmania FB-page that we're building a new mappool and that all help is welcome?

- Maniaplanet website ( more people will know about upcoming changes to the mappool or about votes/polls/testers )
--> Post an article on this website that we're building a new mappool and that, again, all help is welcome.
Explain how it works and how the testphase will work out )

- Maniaplanet forums are better/more active ( no offense )
--> Create a thread that there is new mappool coming and that people ( if interested ) should test maps.

-Maniaplanet ( INGAME )
--> Show a picture linking to the maniaplanet article to notify people even more.


Suggestion:

PART 0
NADEO should make rules about how this mapselection goes down. ( examples )
- Mappool = 9maps.
- 4will be removed, 5will stay
- All maps need to be uploaded onto mania-exchange
- Mappers should share their maniaplanedid.
- Rules
- Rules

No discussion possible if we have good rules.

PART 1:
- Create a poll asking the community which maps can be removed from the current mappool.
- Announce which maps will be removed after the poll.

PART 2:
Make a subforum called "MAPS"
Every mapper can post his map there in 1 thread. ( 1 MAP = 1 Thread )
Everybody ( not just testers ) can leave suggestions for each map...
Polls for these threads can be mandatory.

PART 3:
Nadeo should run servers hosting these new maps with that thumbsUp/thumbsDown or KARMA plugin.
This way we get instantly feedback about the map of MANY MANY players ( instead of just a handful of testers )
This data should be made public. ( duh )
Im talking about a matchmaking server btw.

Problem : Players will just play on the current matchmaking servers. A solution for this could that the matchmaking server with the new maps gets extra attention somehow ( always show it on top ) or give more LP or whatever. ( as a reward for helping the community test. )

PART 4:
Looking at the forums & KARMA-statistics we could remove the worst maps every 2weeks. ( a group of pro-testers could decide about this. )

We could repeat this process until we have 10maps left and then make a giant POLL that should , also , be advertised everywhere. ( Not just mania-actu. )


So basically it would be better ( and easier for us testers ) if the community could help more and that we get more feedback & stats so that we end up with better maps in the end.


Other remarks:
- Mappers will be ofcourse updating their maps during this process so it would be cool that everyday ( or every 2 days ) new versions of these maps would be uploaded onto those servers. ( So we arent play-testing on 'old' maps )

- The role mania-actu can have in this is coverage. They can post the polls, articles & thats it.

- NADEO should have "no say" in what maps will finally be put in the mappool... Let it be about the community.

- Current forum moderators could also moderate the "MAP subforum"

- Once a map is made official the mapper should receive a STAR, PLANETS or a BADGE. Anything!!

- It would motivate mappers to actually make a map and do their best.

- I bet a lot of mappers dont even know they can send out maps to mania-actu atm to become official.


Again, im not trying to make mania-actu look bad. Im just not entirely sure that the way the mapselection process currently is, is the best & most efficient way. There is room for improvement and im only sharing my thoughts and experience.

Please discuss

Spectator-wise maps should also be noticed for matches.

Indeed Willa.

I'll try to communicate some guidelines about that, no guarantees though.

Gameplay, diversity inside the map (paths) and spectating are some major points to look after.
Scenery and accessibility shouldn't be neglected either.

what about what I said :p?

EDIT : okay, now I see you guys did something like this already starting today My timing of my suggestion was super

Looks great!
So the maps with the most "thumbs up's" stays?
Exclusion & Tilt Pro look awesome & the server is already pretty active! Love it!

Maybe you should rename the server or smth. Not all people know what mania-exchange is.
I'd name it. "Help us test new maps" or something a bit more subtle.

Anyways, im happy GJ nadeo