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This post has been see by Nadeo I guess, but please don't start to injure into this topic

You guys are much too sensitive. I guess he got the reaction he was looking for.

Trackmaniack wrote: Yes, the confederate flag is banned, and I'm the one who got it banned. As a black, American, Trackmaniac, that particular image has a rather sensitive and unpleasant connotation for me. Just like the swastika has a rather sensitive and unpleasant connotation for our Jewish and Israeli Trackmaniacs.

You didn't get it banned. You got it "removed" from being a possible official skin if anything at all.

Like posters above had said, if your panties bunch up quickly from symbols or things like jiggle-boob icons, then turn the feature off, go to a server where admins are quick to ban, or just play single-player.

Ravious wrote:

Trackmaniack wrote:Like posters above had said, if your panties bunch up quickly from symbols or things like jiggle-boob icons, then turn the feature off, go to a server where admins are quick to ban, or just play single-player.

I can not believe this. So you're OK with such people spreading their hateful and perverted ideology via your game?
That's just looking away, I'm sorry.

IvanJoukov wrote:Wake up guys, that's nazi, 88 is for HH (Heil Hitler). If some of you think neo nazism is just "trolling" please grow up. I don't play a game to see stupid children showing nazi symbols while I want to have fun. This is about hate and a lot of people are confronted in real life with those nazi bastards and don't think saying "Heil Hitler" is just "trolling"... Furthermore this falls under the law of several countries and under the law of mine.

Nadeo has to clean up there player base from people like that, a game does not have to become a hate gallery.

I totally agree with the Vainamoinen's post.

Kick nazis before they become numerous.

Ravious wrote:

Trackmaniack wrote: Yes, the confederate flag is banned, and I'm the one who got it banned. As a black, American, Trackmaniac, that particular image has a rather sensitive and unpleasant connotation for me. Just like the swastika has a rather sensitive and unpleasant connotation for our Jewish and Israeli Trackmaniacs.

You didn't get it banned. You got it "removed" from being a possible official skin if anything at all.

Like posters above had said, if your panties bunch up quickly from symbols or things like jiggle-boob icons, then turn the feature off, go to a server where admins are quick to ban, or just play single-player.

Did you even read the rest of my post? This isn't some T or T+ or M rated game we're talking about here, where inappropriate icons are the norm. This is a game for ALL ages and for kids, too, guys.

Trackmaniack wrote:Otherwise, I could draw a penis-car with huge boobs on the hood and no one could complain. BTW, before you forget, this game -does- have a rating of PEGI 3+, or ESRB E for Everyone. This isn't Battlefield 3. Kids play this game, and are expected to be able to with a minimum of fuss...

People did used to get banned from the game for doing just that. I don't know why there's a shift in ideology here--this is inappropriate, and should be removed. Simple. If you want shock value, go troll on 4chan, not Trackmania.

Vainamoinen wrote:

Ravious wrote:

Trackmaniack wrote:Like posters above had said, if your panties bunch up quickly from symbols or things like jiggle-boob icons, then turn the feature off, go to a server where admins are quick to ban, or just play single-player.

I can not believe this. So you're OK with such people spreading their hateful and perverted ideology via your game?
That's just looking away, I'm sorry.

He's not giving readings from Mein Kampf in a public server, he's put some symbols on his car to troll people who find such things offensive, such as yourself. Let's keep some perspective.

I do not IN ANY WAY condone such behaviour, but Nadeo provided you with a solution - turn off P2P.

I hope the Nazi car guy gets banned, but by posting this here you have given him all the exposure he wanted.

As much exposure as is needed to get him banned from the game, I hope.
I don't care at all what the guy wants.

Trackmaniack wrote: Did you even read the rest of my post? This isn't some T or T+ or M rated game we're talking about here, where inappropriate icons are the norm. This is a game for ALL ages and for kids, too, guys.

Yeah, and dumb argument remains dumb. Once the line is crossed into player made content, chat, or VOIP, all ratings are off. As a parent (which I doubt you are), I don't give a flying flock about ratings because it's what my kids do when they play... not what the devs have included. Apparently neither do the ratings people since they understand and allow for phrases like "online play may change the nature of the game."

Nadeo gives warnings, options, AND parental locks to prevent any crossover of peniscars and gestapomobiles, but that doesn't mean they can stop them entirely.

So, duh, it remains up to the individual to determine how much the person can take (or allow the kids to see) by using such options. Since you go into rage at the slightest provocation, it might be good for your blood pressure to turn the settings off, visit servers you trust, or just play single-player. Or, in the good words of the Heavy:

Cry some more.

*sigh* Okay. I've been on the internet for a while. I'm a card-carrying forumite. And I know that you're not supposed to feed or otherwise shine the spotlight on the trolls in any way, shape, or form. So, to writ: By responding, they win. But by not responding, they also win. Because then this skin can cruise around Trackmania unfettered, possibly casting a negative light on Nadeo for condoning such things. So, then, I ask you. What is the purpose of the report functions? Again, if there's no point, then why don't we have a pedophile using a CP car? (to use an extreme example.) I mean, really, where do we draw the line? Do we just let anybody do anything and turn a blind eye to what we don't want to see? Or are we going to try to enforce what's right?

Oh, and Ravious? I -am- a parent. To a three year old. And when my child gets older, if they ever stumble across something like this in an online game, you'd better bet I'd be e-mailing or on the phone with the devs to see that the content was removed if it wasn't intentional.