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So what is causing the Camera from older nations tracks to convert as Camera 2 in stead of 3? Aside from that how do we fix it without having to edit the track file and thus change the author's name?

This is a pretty big issue because of the millions of available tracks that may be affected.

well sure, to keep tmuf and get rid of the rest, would be okay. nevertheless, tm2 stadium will have to be tweaked a bit. the landing bug may be gone, but there are still other annoying bugs, for example.

ah well, we'll find out what nadeo decides.

TheDoctor wrote:So what is causing the Camera from older nations tracks to convert as Camera 2 in stead of 3? Aside from that how do we fix it without having to edit the track file and thus change the author's name?

This is a pretty big issue because of the millions of available tracks that may be affected.

You can't fix it without going into the editor and break author. I'm pretty confident they were setup wrong in the first place.

TheDoctor wrote:So what is causing the Camera from older nations tracks to convert as Camera 2 in stead of 3? Aside from that how do we fix it without having to edit the track file and thus change the author's name?

This is a pretty big issue because of the millions of available tracks that may be affected.

i found that by removing "camera custom" from all of the "ingame" MT slots resulted in normal loopcams.
In other terms, most of the time you just need to clear the GPS custom cam of most older tracks and they suddenly work.

Fix the cameras to EXACTLY how Stadium was or I will simply not be purchasing this game.

For the many years I have been playing, I have always driven with camera 2, now camera 2 is stupid, and it effects greatly the driving experience in a negative fashion. It changes the whole feel of the game, it might look the same, but the driving is NOT the same, which is THE most important part of the game, that made it what it is today.

When Canyon was released I thought to myself what a huge mistake to make. You did not listen and the numbers showed this to be true. The true fans of TrackMania wanted Stadium and eventually you listened, albeit hesitantly.

Again I thought to myself what is the bet they stuff that up too, as I believe the people behind it are not true fans of the platform, nor understand what the community wants.

Instead of coming here singing the praises of this game and thanking the developers for finally listening and giving us what we've always wanted, they've gone and stuffed up again ...

I want to purchase this game. I want to play this game every day. I want this to be my number one go to game when I get home from work. Why can't you just accept the platform, embrace it and love it like we do? Why must you only give us half of what we want?

Yes it is Stadium. Yes it looks MUCH better. But surely you must realize how important the driving experience is, and it is this alone that makes the game have such a strong following. Why in Gods name would you mess with that?

Just like Canyon you will have a strong early uptake. Many many players will download the beta (and pay) but I promise you, just as Canyon did, Stadium will loose the players as time passes unless you fix this camera/driving issue.
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For those suggesting getting rid of TMN or TMNF that would be the biggest mistake EVER made. If Stadium 2 fails (which it might if not fixed) AND you get rid of TMNF, well get ready for a mass exodus and no more players ...

Tomei wrote:Fix the cameras to EXACTLY how Stadium was or I will simply not be purchasing this game.

Even if I also would appreciate to have the old Cam 2 on key 2 and the new Cam 2 e. g. on key 4 (as posted somewhere above), I think blackmailing Nadeo in this way is a... hmmm... funny idea


Calm down, please and give the devs some time to react to all these reports following the release of the open beta.

It says beta, BETA is not only non-finished game, sometimes, open beta is there just to simulate players reaction if something is changed.

So yeah, calm down .

Tomei wrote: For the many years I have been playing, I have always driven with camera 2, now camera 2 is stupid, and it effects greatly the driving experience in a negative fashion. It changes the whole feel of the game, it might look the same, but the driving is NOT the same, which is THE most important part of the game, that made it what it is today.

Bold, that is called subjective view, and even if it represent what majority of players thinks, it is still subjective. For example, for me, it is all you said, but instead "stupid" is "great", and instead "negative" is "positive", and again it is subjective.

But what i can agree, is that pro players are dependent on camera (somehow) and have hard time to adopt to it. So, because that is minority of players (or it should be), i vote for old cam 2 to be on number 4, and new one as default, everyone happy, and game (new camera) flow is not changed .

You ahve whole topic dedicated to camera under report section, take a look there.

they have to fix this loop cam bug or they should provide a tool that make it possible to edit password protectet maps

TheBigG. wrote:they have to fix this loop cam bug or they should provide a tool that make it possible to edit password protectet maps

I don't see the problem here. The first one, I can't understand as Stadium does not run on my PC The second one, stadium authors might have a reason why there is password protection on their map. Ever thought about this? If you want to play a map this badly, rebuild it with help of screen shoots.

For a rebuild I personaly would ask the author first if he agrees. I don't know if it's the same in other countries but if your name is on it, it's copyrighted.