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Re: [Beta2] ManiaPlanet 2 Beta Server 2012-12-19

Posted: 20 Dec 2012, 12:40
by zarexz
johndo wrote:You have to accept that sometime people make mistake, and i'm sure Nadeo is actually working really hard to fix problems.
Really? And how do you know that? They send you a PM?

Re: [Beta2] ManiaPlanet 2 Beta Server 2012-12-19

Posted: 20 Dec 2012, 12:40
by masleyko
niarfman wrote: I think you are wrong. Because this servers are very appreciated by the gamers and run very well.

But I am agree, stopping everything will not help in the actual case. Hope only Nadeo will show they are able to listen the community in their actions :)
i agree with you .. it wont help.. but it might force nadeo to listen what we , people that buy and play their games want in games. and btw i`m still talking only about TM2. i have no interest in SM. and as i know there is release of full version of TM2 almost 1 and half year ago. this is not our issue. not even if we wanna help.. all this has nothing to do with TM2..its updates unnecessary for us and our game. and has brough nothing good for tm2. only loss of players and return to TMUF.

Re: [Beta2] ManiaPlanet 2 Beta Server 2012-12-19

Posted: 20 Dec 2012, 12:45
by johnwho
zarexz wrote:
johndo wrote:You have to accept that sometime people make mistake, and i'm sure Nadeo is actually working really hard to fix problems.
Really? And how do you know that? They send you a PM?
i bet he is from nadeo, using a fake-/twinkaccount to not show his real identity :lol:
this clown is the only guy out of dozens who is pro-nadeo today, too obvious - haha --- game over
/format johndo :D

however. i had enough fun today but i am out here now playing real game from real game developers which do not let users like johndo insult other clans or players without penalty. cu guys have fun waiting for a running tm2 and sm.
i guess nadeo wont get it done till the world ends tomorrow, so... :sucks:

Re: [Beta2] ManiaPlanet 2 Beta Server 2012-12-19

Posted: 20 Dec 2012, 12:48
by niarfman
masleyko wrote:
niarfman wrote: I think you are wrong. Because this servers are very appreciated by the gamers and run very well.

But I am agree, stopping everything will not help in the actual case. Hope only Nadeo will show they are able to listen the community in their actions :)
i agree with you .. it wont help.. but it might force nadeo to listen what we , people that buy and play their games want in games. and btw i`m still talking only about TM2. i have no interest in SM. and as i know there is release of full version of TM2 almost 1 and half year ago. this is not our issue. not even if we wanna help.. all this has nothing to do with TM2..its updates unnecessary for us and our game. and has brough nothing good for tm2. only loss of players and return to TMUF.
You are totally right too, as I previously said, both updates at the same time wasn't the best idea. But is it possible for Nadeo to separate games updates from ManiaPlanet Update ... ?

The main problem here is that ManiaPlanet is still in Beta. Canyon was stable and ShootMania in beta. All will work fine in the future ONLY if ManiaPlanet reach a stable status. It will allow to update specifics games one by one and concentrate on only one thing each time.

And we all know that ManiaPlanet is still in developpement and will keep this state for the whole next year at least.

For me, if we cannot play only for 1 or 2 days in a year it's not very unbearable. Hope this kind of bugs won't be there on each major update :)

Re: [Beta2] ManiaPlanet 2 Beta Server 2012-12-19

Posted: 20 Dec 2012, 12:52
by zarexz
niarfman wrote:And we all know that ManiaPlanet is still in developpement and will keep this state for the whole next year at least.
For me, if we cannot play only for 1 or 2 days in a year it's not very unbearable. Hope this kind of bugs won't be there on each major update :)
True, if Nadeo only was so decent to post a comment about it. The lack of communication from their side is really sad. All they've done sofar is react on Storm issues and delete posts regarding critisism on the TM disaster.

Re: [Beta2] ManiaPlanet 2 Beta Server 2012-12-19

Posted: 20 Dec 2012, 13:06
by masleyko
zarexz wrote:
niarfman wrote:And we all know that ManiaPlanet is still in developpement and will keep this state for the whole next year at least.
For me, if we cannot play only for 1 or 2 days in a year it's not very unbearable. Hope this kind of bugs won't be there on each major update :)
True, if Nadeo only was so decent to post a comment about it. The lack of communication from their side is really sad. All they've done sofar is react on Storm issues and delete posts regarding critisism on the TM disaster.
its not unbearable but they should have decency to let us know at least.. or not let such an update out.
form my previous experiences there have been difficulties and hotfixes at every bigger update not only major like this..last time i remember 3 or 4 version of server with 100%cpu issue.. its sad and it seems like they dont know what their overall goal is or what they really want from that client..

Re: [Beta2] ManiaPlanet 2 Beta Server 2012-12-19

Posted: 20 Dec 2012, 13:18
by johnwho
masleyko wrote:form my previous experiences there have been difficulties and hotfixes at every bigger update not only major like this..last time i remember 3 or 4 version of server with 100%cpu issue.. its sad and it seems like they dont know what their overall goal is or what they really want from that client..
thats exactly whats the problem with nadeo. missing obligation for executive care! Regarding to all the past updates and their always failures and bugs it sometimes seems like amateurs are programing the game/client.
most times an upgrade or update of anything at maniaplanet means a step backward and not forward.
in those rare times where everything seems to work - at least acceptable - i pray for nadeo not updating anything for a long long time as i know what happens then. :D

Re: [Beta2] ManiaPlanet 2 Beta Server 2012-12-19

Posted: 20 Dec 2012, 13:39
by Leigham
Seriously guys? I'm as annoyed as anyone (well perhaps not everyone) at the bugs that are in the new server version, but do you really have to keep posting the same views repeatedly in BLOCK CAPITALS? I'm pretty sure everyone's aware of your opinions by now.

As has already been mentioned, this topic is for information and reports on the dedicated release, not for being needlessly complicated by repetitive flaming and oddly personal insults. Maybe instead of making suggestions for rollbacks from the top of your heads, you could wait patiently for nadeo to release their fixes (which they've already said will be coming today) since they're the guys with all the code and so are in a better position to know the best course. Then you can comment (sensibly) on those fixes.

In the meantime, I now have to put my servers back up in some sort of obscure anti-protest. Thanks a lot.

Re: [Beta2] ManiaPlanet 2 Beta Server 2012-12-19

Posted: 20 Dec 2012, 13:53
by niarfman
Leigham wrote:In the meantime, I now have to put my servers back up in some sort of obscure anti-protest. Thanks a lot.
I love that :roflol:

I think it will be more efficient to post here some server feedbacks when the bug will be fixed. It will useless before.

But we will do the necessary to give our point of vue to Nadeo as soon as possible for allowing them to build a better game :)

Re: [Beta2] ManiaPlanet 2 Beta Server 2012-12-19

Posted: 20 Dec 2012, 14:01
by johnwho
Leigham wrote:but do you really have to keep posting the same views repeatedly in BLOCK CAPITALS?
i think as bigger the shitstorms at nadeo for their ongoing failures are (its not the first time as you should know) as higher the chance that they finally will stop forcing updates which are far away from beeing ever tested or ready to put on beta state.

we are all humans and we all make mistakes, no questions, but nadeo seems not to learn out of their long list of wrong decisions and mistakes they made in the past. so why do you come to their defence? i think nadeo just earns currently what they have seeded. so the shitstorm can't be big enough?!