Just a word about the social stuff in the game. It's my understanding that most of the social stuff (ManiaHome, etc) is developed by Nadeo Live, a separate development studio. The core mechanics of the game and the deeply integrated features like the editor and mediatracker is what is developed and managed by Nadeo. So it's different engineers working on those things.
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Now onto the main part of my post:
C'mon guys. Please stop the flaming.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion.
Everyone wants different things out of the game. Some are content with what's already done. Some want more, and aren't satisfied with the speed that things are happening.
So what? It's not hurting anyone but themselves if they choose not to play or choose to express their honest, but negative, opinions about the game. Let it roll off your shoulders.
I had to learn months ago not to let every negative comment about Canyon bother me. There's surely quite a few, right?
Getting defensive about the game doesn't really do anyone any good, especially when it's well known there are some fairly major flaws (some being a lack of core features found in TM United).
Of course the game is still a lot of fun. And that's why I personally overlook its flaws for now. I played on a ladder server tonight for over four hours and had a lot of fun (over 3000 LP, woohoo!). I wouldn't have done that if I didn't like the game.
I think people exaggerate the problems with the physics because they haven't taken the time to learn how to drive properly... or just have trouble with figuring it out even if they have taken the time.
For instance, people complain about the way the car jerks back in the opposite direction after a drift. Well if you stop steering just prior to the point where the car exits the drift... and let the car end the drift naturally, then it won't do that. But that's only something you get by playing a lot and learning all the little tricks. That's nothing new to Canyon. Every environment has had "tricks" to learning how to drive better.
Some in this topic have said the game feels like a boat. It must be a speedboat.
People do race boats though. That's not exactly a negative thing. In another topic here on the forums, someone else likened TM to surfing, and it's one of the reasons they love it.
alonsega wrote:...ok I think even categorizing TM as a racer is a mistake, I dont like racing games, and yet im a total addict of TM cause im a surfer, and the game that most gives me the sensation of surfing, even more so than surfing games is - TM!!!! (could be nice to "drive" a surfer model, just a thought
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so I think TM is NOT a racing game, its a genre on its own...
Trackmaniack, I'm going to pick on you now.
You know I was with you during the beta and after the release... defending Nadeo at every turn. I'm sure you could dig up some of my replies around this forum to prove that.
My wake-up call was when someone asked if I worked for Nadeo, because I appeared to be biased beyond all reason.
I mean, don't get me wrong. Working at Nadeo would be awesome. But I don't work for them. I'm just a guy out here in the community who enjoys the game a lot. I respect what Nadeo has accomplished so far, but I also acknowledge that they are fallible (indeed they've even acknowledged that themselves in not so many words). They can't do everything perfect or always get things done on the timetable that people want (or even they'd like to themselves). They work the hours that are given to them and make steady progress towards a result. I mean, Canyon
did get released after all. They had some part in making that happen. We all know they have a keen interest in making the game the best they can make it. Well, I'm sure you'd agree with all that.
But trying to reply to every negative comment and telling people off isn't really the way to win someone back and get them to play the game again... if that's your goal. If that's not your goal, then maybe you should think about what is your goal when writing replies on the forums... and whether that goal is really worth it.
I don't think people should be stomped on for expressing legitimate concerns about the progress of ManiaPlanet, or their lack of interest in SM and their wish that more focus was put into TM instead. Just because someone's concerns aren't likely to be addressed doesn't mean they should feel threatened to comment about those concerns.
I think you're not alone though. We all tend to defend the thing we love and minimize any imperfections or problems with it. Some call it fanboyism. I guess in relationships it's called infatuation.
Hopefully we can all seek to be more reasonable, as long as it's done in a constructive and positive way.
. Trackmania 2 is definitely a great racing game. Yes there are few things that are really pissing me off but i am willing to wait. That doesnt change that this is best racing game ever along with their predecessors. Some of u are arguing about driving model and style. I dont know why, but whats wrong with it, it is something that you can master, just look at the best players they are always amongst first almost in every map, thats the proof that you can learn it regardless of how it was in TMNU. Maybe you are expecting that you switch from TMNU and u will be the best here but thats not going to happen without hours of new practice. As i said there are few things that are really pissing me off, i hope they will be changed in near future.
