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I actually do like new camera 2, always played with cam 2, and i don't mind it. Even more, i feel a bit better sense of speed on this new cam 2 (maybe I'm wrong).

Maybe it would be better option to add 4th cam (old cam 2) or something, idk.

On 4:3 display, old cam 2 was way too close, so it is a positive change, at least for me.

i want cam 2 back, i get motion sickness after some hours of playing with the new one.

The fact that cam2 is too far away isn't the only problem.

The focal too has changed, which makes the edges of the image really stretched. Not only is it unrealistic but it's also disturbing. Just like playing through a panoramic camera
It made me remember of some "lol" maps that have an intro with a stupidly wide angle of view, but it was just for fun.

To make things even more disturbing, the field of view changes with the speed, like in SM, it gets wider at high speed. I don't know if you tried Fullspeed maps, but they suddenly got slightly more challenging... The horizon seems to have its own speed: it goes away when you accelerate, it gets closer when you slow down (hence the motion sickness). You can see this classic effect in some films or games, because it makes things more spectacular. But that is not suitable for e-sport in my opinion.

Sure keep this cam because it is a cool eye-candy for videos, but give the old stable cam2 too ! Performance first, and then spectacular videos
(I think you should do the same for SM, because boosts are just as much disturbing, but it isnt a big issue there)

Some of you complain about being dizzy. Just give it a chance. You will get used. Also the other cameras casuses dizziness if you are not used. If I don't play trackmania for a month or so I always get dizzy when playing again. But also I get used in maybe one day or two.

FrostBeule wrote:I too discovered that the camera I've played with since 2006 (cam 2) is very different in this game. It would be interesting to know the reasons behind this change, because the other cameras are unchanged as far as I know, so why this change with cam 2?

Personally I don't see a good reason for this change. The camera is now further away, which makes it harder to see the details ahead. I feel like I can't play as good anymore with the camera because of that. Also it sort-of makes me dizzy. So for the moment I'm playing with cam 3 which I find much better. And it seems like many others are avoiding cam 2 as well by either switching to cam 1 or 3.

And I would suggest that if you don't want to remove this new cam 2, then why not just keep both the old and new? I think it wouldn't hurt if people got more choices as to what camera they want to play with. Perhaps the best way would be if it was fully custom-able even.

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lille79 wrote:

FrostBeule wrote:I too discovered that the camera I've played with since 2006 (cam 2) is very different in this game. It would be interesting to know the reasons behind this change, because the other cameras are unchanged as far as I know, so why this change with cam 2?

Personally I don't see a good reason for this change. The camera is now further away, which makes it harder to see the details ahead. I feel like I can't play as good anymore with the camera because of that. Also it sort-of makes me dizzy. So for the moment I'm playing with cam 3 which I find much better. And it seems like many others are avoiding cam 2 as well by either switching to cam 1 or 3.

And I would suggest that if you don't want to remove this new cam 2, then why not just keep both the old and new? I think it wouldn't hurt if people got more choices as to what camera they want to play with. Perhaps the best way would be if it was fully custom-able even.

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yes everything is said with that, only option for me is cam3, which is closest to old cam2 but you cant see the car to deal with the curbs.. big problem...

I agree that cam 2 is cool for video´s but make it cam 4 or so and return the normal cam 2 for playing!
I wonder why no Nadeo guy answers here... hope it´s not a bad sign that they keep headstrong about this even when this is the biggest issue with the beta...

no Nadeo reply here yet? I think it's a pretty important issue...

I will see what can be done.

thanks god. I just hope the final outcome won't be like "we think it's perfectly fine, let it stay like this".