[TM2-Canyon]Freeze detect

[rat_in_car]

TMarc, please stop writing your nonsenses! We're trying to improve something, but you answer instead of real TM crew, what is annoying. If you doing that, real TM crew will not help us. They will look at topic and see lot of stupid posts about configurations etc. The main problem, which is freezing, is forgotten because your stupid posts and lot of dumb useless additional questions! You have no idea how programs works, you mostly have no idea about any problem, but you spend lot of time to prove that you know anything at all. I am not the only one person who think that your posts are useless. I spend lot of time to talk with you instead of talking with any normal person who can help with resolving bugs. Your experience is none, your posts are ridiculous so I'm requesting again - PLEASE do not write any comments if you have no idea what we're talking about.

Damn, you're probably worst moderator I've ever seen.

[TMarc]

You are totally wrong, about many things
Please stay polite and friendly, and stop insulting me for no reason.
Don't you understand that it is your behavior that makes the Nadeo guys not react to your posts?

[rat_in_car]

How many times I must ask you for NOT replying to my posts? How many people must confirm my point of view that your comments are useless? Should I remind you what other people says about your nonsense comments?
http://forum.maniaplanet.com/viewtopic. ... 6&start=20
And here, in this post, guy start talking about minifreezes and what did you do?
You start asking him about... "more details of your system hardware and which OS you're running". What for? Do you know answer depends on configuration? If this man says that he has Samsung HDD or Nvidia 550, then you'll know what is wrong? Regardless of answer, you will never know what is reason for that freezes, because you're not programmer! He is not asking you for TRYING to guessing, he is reporting bug (in "REPORTS AND BUGS" section), so he is not post about hardware testing. No matter how detailed configuration this person gives you, you will not know reason for freezes anyway, so why you ask for details? Just for sport? For sounds more pro?

The only you can do is write lot of useless guessing. And I bet that he don't want to ask you for good advices. He is trying to get help here from real TM crew, who really can help.

Do not answer please, let others do that - persons who really know what we're talking about. I give some tests about HDD and differences, maybe this helps programmers to improve disk communication procedures or find other way to resolve that freezing problem.

[TMarc]

You don't even try to understand why I keep asking for details of configuration.
I do this because it is a preparation for the developers (they would have asked it anyways, which would cause a unnecessary delay), and to keep things going on.
I'm in between Nadeo and the users.

The developpers claim to read everything, but not all developers are reading the forum.
And you know well yourself they don't write everywhere.
Now, when the persons in charge of the forum read it (e.g. Hylis), it is better they directly find more complete information from the users, to speed up things.

Something like your indication about disks is very helpful.
I was neither questioning nor doubting that

[rat_in_car]

Then maybe you believe me that changing users HDD is not a solution. Solution is to make read/write procedure as transparent as possible. If waiting for data is longer than expect, program should not freeze. So again - this is software problem.

[TMarc]

yeah, I fully agree to that.

[rat_in_car]

I'm in between Nadeo and the users.

So, if you have new informations, I hope you'll give them to someone from Nadeo who use them to fix this freezes.

[TMarc]

I'll do, in both directions (towards Nadeo and towards users).

[rat_in_car]

And? Any answers? We (users) still waiting for any programmers' feedback. :)

[TMarc]

Developpers are coming back from vacation these days.
I just saw this: http://forum.maniaplanet.com/viewtopic. ... 92#p187788
You might try this "new" visual debugging feature as well

And this player had similar issues up to crashes.
http://forum.maniaplanet.com/viewtopic. ... 69#p186807 (French only).
Later issues were due to his internet connections apparently.
At the moment he is not perceiving major lags or freezes.