Again insults, even if partially hidden
If you absolutely do not want to understand that there is always the choice of a nice and an unfriendly way to ask for things, but always keep doing it the unfriendly way, always causing undesired and artifical trouble, then yes, there will be mute, by the admins (this is not in my hand, I only want to help you avoiding that).
But this is not my intention here.
I'm only tired of these useless rants, because they do not bring anything.
I'm only reminding you to be friendly and to express your frustration and your wishes almost in a neutral or friendly way.
This does not mean you have to be happy with everything.
I see deception because many expectations were not met. This is OK.
But I also lots of see bad words (sh*t, f*ck and others), insults and hatress recently, which is absolutely not appropriate here.
All this causes a bad mood which is definitely not in the intended spirit of the Trackmania community.
If you are that much frustrated about a - let's say it like this - silly game,
then you should think yourself if you have really understood the concept of Turbo,
and why you don't look for something else instead, like possible improvements of Maniaplanet, which are more likely to be realized if many ask for it, or in worst case, into a game where you think you would be less stressed.
Maniaplanet and Trackmania², perhaps later even Trackmania³, is not "dead" as some are always trying to propagate.
Yes, it has not many player, count is decreasing or almost low stable, except perhaps Stadium.
Yes, the community is separated. Even more since Turbo and multiple forums.
Yes, Turbo does not have many useful features we are all used to have since years.
Don't forget, I'm also Trackmania player since years and I also see where Turbo has its flaws.
Still it is a nice game. It has some things which many were missing in Maniaplanet, e.g. nicer menus and interface.
Sure, not everyone's choice.
All this does not make Turbo a ugly bad game and Nadeo a ugly bad developer, because they don't do everything we might want.
All those who claim they would have done it better: please, do it yourself, show that you can build such a game with all features and perfect communication, and this during 15 years.
Oh, you can't? How can this be? You said it is easy and not much work...
I have not seen any game where the developers were there for such a long time and where (sure, not always) user feedback is welcome, and where there is more or less often a response from the developers.
Many other games are just sold as they are, and Turbo is one of those.
Discussion about Turbo is, if we stay realistic, futile.
Therefore any overheat because of missing features is just waste of energy and of time.
Guys, really, keep the church in the town, and keep calm.
The "old" "Camera 1" is not there? The camera which is there in Turbo is not that bad.
Some are used to that view already since the first Trackmania.
But all those don't say anything, because they are happy.
What is more important? To work on a feature that is requested by a few hundred of unhappy users, blocking one or two developers for some months, or to work on features which will make happy thousands of players?
Turbo for itself is not the end of Trackmania, hopefully.
Nadeo and Ubisoft did their choice, and regarding Turbo, we have to accept it.
Regarding Maniaplanet, it is different.
Again, keep calm (this does not mean quiet), friendly and respectful.
That's only what I'm asking here.
Thanks
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