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Re: Ladder on 100K
Posted: 12 Feb 2012, 17:25
by HenZo
Sorry but its Bla bla Bla your list 3 servers On ROC TM2 for how many players?...
Add more server en ROC Pls.
Too much spec & player wait to play sunday, more stress than fun the Roc TM2 and repetition bug queue on Killer 100K
Please fix your plug queue cant play not fair

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Re: Ladder on 100K
Posted: 12 Feb 2012, 19:56
by laurens92
1. There shouldn't be added more RoC servers, if you want to be in the top 100, you need skills. When there are 3 servers, you can use your skills to stay in & don't get a requeue, if you gonna add more server, the skills gonna disappear and every noob can go again >90k, like on TMUF, that's not FUN! 'cause good players deserve to be in top 100. Why to make it easy? It isn't needed!
2. The queue bug is NORMAL, I tested both systems already, & they have the same bugs. It's just when the server is full & the queue is very long, we've to be honest, those designers are good, but not able to make a perfect autoqueue.
There should come a new one which works perfectly, So stop argueing about these bugs, you won't have it if you don't get requeued (So you need skills). Or if you still don't like it, nobody says you MUST drive it
Regards Laurens.
Re: Ladder on 100K
Posted: 12 Feb 2012, 23:24
by rycardoo
But the fact that after four tracks AutoKick it is bad enough, to have only little time to roc.
For hours on standby and will play .... bahhh.
Please remove auto kick then 3 or 4 tracks.
My opinion.

Re: Ladder on 100K
Posted: 13 Feb 2012, 18:42
by killer606
rycardoo wrote:But the fact that after four tracks AutoKick it is bad enough, to have only little time to roc.
For hours on standby and will play .... bahhh.
Please remove auto kick then 3 or 4 tracks.
My opinion.

The problem is that it would be unfair is there is no kick. So every noob can get to the top100. And the second is, this is a Nadeorule

Re: Ladder on 100K
Posted: 13 Feb 2012, 21:44
by laurens92
Like I mentioned already

The system is good now, But Pleas don't start with Rotation =S..
Re: Ladder on 100K
Posted: 14 Feb 2012, 11:05
by rycardoo
is not because you did not kick, but AutoKick when you wait your turn in queueu.
is correct to second kick
but it is unfair to expect you to be in queueu kick and then after 3 or 4 tracks and then when you return to is last in the queue.
I hope you understand now
Re: Ladder on 100K
Posted: 14 Feb 2012, 20:38
by HenZo
Don t Be selfish with your server 100K, noob or skill, bad or good config canyon whatever , 14/16 spect by server is too much, 6 or 8 spect with 8 players on round its the best not much time too wait for 3h ROC and everyone is happy.
Last sunday on Killer 100K i waitting 1H 15 Mn too have free slot, 2 times when is my turn i get bug requeue back position 14 or 16 grrrr i am very angry the plug queue dont like Fr player.
This time I dont play seriously but just for fun on trackmania when i have time on week, anyway no problem for me, let see whats happen with this game.
Edit: Just need 1 or 2 more server what i ask for the players ROC , i think players dont care about your rotate or new servers list every month if Nadeo change every month servers Roc no problem, just need free slot to play and have some fun & no more bug queue.
Re: Ladder on 100K
Posted: 14 Feb 2012, 22:41
by laurens92
Stop arguing on the queue bug, everyone gets it, so don't be requeued then

Furtherly it's not about selfish, it's about what the most players like, they hate to change from a server in a month.
You can open maybe 1-2 more RoC servers, but don't rotate, use TMUF rules.
Re: Ladder on 100K
Posted: 16 Feb 2012, 16:20
by Bueddl
In this point, I am on the NADEO side of the story...
there is a need for the RoC rotation. Like on TMF it was very hard to get a RoC at a later point as the ownership didn't change for months and years. If NADEO would do this with TM2 again, they would benefit a lower number of players with owning a RoC.
So, at this point, it is totally about selfishness. It is more fair to rotate the ownership of the RoC servers due to a higher number of players beeing able to own a RoC.
I aggree to a discussion about the length of the period. Three months is too less in my opinion. I would like to see a change here to six months. A longer period would end up in not acceptable long waiting lists and less is a too harsh and fast change, I think for RoC players it is acceptable to learn every 6 months "new" maps, while 3 is too less (and as we saw, after a while, there were not really "new" maps on TMF; TM2 will fallow this process)...
It was also a good change, that you could only be put again in the waiting list AFTER your current RoC-ownership-period, as it was also not fair to players later be put on the waitinglist.
Also there should be another change, the minimum-spectator-slots should be made fix with a rule, but there should be no upper limit, as there is no argument against serveradmins desciding this on their own...
Cheers,
Bueddl
Re: Ladder on 100K
Posted: 20 Feb 2012, 17:38
by dawiddada
Dunno if it's correct place to write it, but...
Why isn't the roc system same as current tmuf roc system, where you can get >100k and after roc you are put back to 100000.00lp?
With 100k being max lp, we will end up with top players having same lps (now there are only 2, but more will follow next weeks).
Also, it is bad that you can't get as much lp as you can, but as much as you need to get 100k. Yesterday it took me 50 minutes to get it (380lp), but next week it will take me only 5 minutes! (13lp).
So my question is: will it be changed to something like current tmuf system, and if - when?