TheM wrote:tcq wrote:Even if people don't like it, my solution would still be to shut down the TMNF and ESWC master server and then you see how many people are willing to buy the new game or not. I bet a lot of people will.
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If you are able to only get half of the TMN players to buy TM2S, this would still triple the amount of players playing the game online.
This has been my opinion for quite a while. Just force everyone to or buy TM2S or leave, I guess quite some people will buy TM2S. Or at some way discourage people to use TMNF (I still don't understand why the ESWC masterserver is up nowadays).
I really dissagree to this approach and i honestly Believe that this would cause more harm than good to Nadeo and the TM-Community. Those who still keeps on playing TMF should change to TM2 because they get a better Product and a more fun experience playing the game. So far this obviously is not the case as so many more people are still playing the old TMF than the new. Find out why and adapt would be my advice to Nadeo.
eyebo wrote:
The problem is, Nadeo is a victim of it's own successes. They bundled environments in the past, putting 3 environments per title in the first two games, and 7 environments in TMU. Many people got used to that. To now have one environment per title feels like a ripoff to many people, even people who are extremely into the series. What's worse, is that the games are separate within ManiaPlanet, even though they're somehow together within ManiaPlanet. It feels like a huge step backwards from a gameplay standpoint.
This is a very valid Point even thoug i know a lot of people who only played/is still playing Stadium within TMUF, but purchased the game to get the "full" version supporting Nadeo at the same time.
eyebo wrote:
There's also the issue of Stadium. Nations Forever players will never move to Stadium en masse until it's free. It's not even about the money. It's about tradition, and it's about fear. Tradition because it's always been free. It's always been available to anyone, whether it's some kid whose parents don't allow him to buy games online, or a guy in a country somewhere that online payment options are not available. It brought in people from all walks of life, because it was totally open. There's also a fear surrounding the new game. Fear that no one else will move to it, so no one else moves. Everyone is paralyzed by this fear, and so they stay in Nations Forever. Eliminating the price from TM2 Stadium could be a huge move to remove much of that fear, even if some of it may still remain because of factors like minimum system requirements.
Also a very valid Point. I know a lot of people who are "awaiting" a larger number of online-players in TM2S Before they do the switch. Right now this is going the opposite direction as there are fewer and fewer online players.....downward spiral correctomundo.........
eyebo wrote:
I'm approaching this from a player's perspective and what I'd like to see happen to help the game survive and flourish. I don't know how much is viable from an economic standpoint. That's your job. What I do know is that sometimes you have to take risks to get huge rewards.
I'm a huge fan of TM. I've played it for a long time. But I'm also not an idiot. I see activity gradually going down and I'd be remiss if I didn't point it out. So many cool things have been added with ManiaPlanet, and there's so much potential, but a run of bad publicity and bad marketing is ruining this game I love so dearly.
Sure, there's people still playing, but it's a niche group of dedicated players. It's not growing by leaps and bounds like it should.
Totally agree and very well formulated. i am sorry to say though that it seems Nadeo have all the answers and are totally dismissing what everybody here is trying to Point out what is missing or wrong with the game
today as beeing negative and/or totally wrong and that we have no clue as to what they are doing or planning and that patience is needed.
I, as a player, can only judge from what i have in front of me
currently and i am sorry to say that it is more fun to still play the old TMUF, more online players bringing more fun to the game and overall, better Graphics and sound.
So to finish off, i totally agree on this also from Eyebo's great post:
eyebo wrote:
In my opinion, drastic measures will need to be taken in the next year if you expect TM to ever regain the popularity it had in the past, let alone survive.