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Re: TrackMania² Lake - Out now!
Posted: 23 Aug 2015, 18:27
by Florenzius
TMarc wrote:This describes pretty well what usually happens
Especially young people are very proud of anything they do the first time, they want to share with the whole world, and to be admired by the whole world, regardless if some don't like it.
Then they get upset very easily if this is the case.
And the reason for dislike can be very little, e.g. just a wrong color, or can have psychololgic reason, like it is something the other person also had in mind alreday, but was not able to do herself.
The best advice is to continue working on it, but not to show every little crappy step to the public.
And if something almost useable is there, test it as good as you can before, eventually with a closed group.
You cannot test everything, that's sure. At least try to fix the things which are very annoying.
Especially with a complete environment, it is certainly not enough to provide a few textures like a mod, you need also lots of models for items. So the work is a huge lot more, and also the expectations are much more.
@Demented and TMarc: That are very good advices! Thanks! I already planned a "closed-beta-test" on my server, when it's in the beta-stage. We try to do that, what was wrong in Lake again.
Re: TrackMania Lake + Seaside discussions
Posted: 27 Aug 2015, 10:01
by adamkooo2
the link is deleted.
Re: TrackMania Lake + Seaside discussions
Posted: 27 Aug 2015, 15:11
by Florenzius
What link?
Re: TrackMania Lake + Seaside discussions
Posted: 27 Aug 2015, 17:29
by adamkooo2
Re: TrackMania Lake + Seaside discussions
Posted: 27 Aug 2015, 17:49
by Florenzius
Re: TrackMania Lake + Seaside discussions
Posted: 24 Sep 2015, 18:03
by Darkhawk
If i may ask:
You wrote in plural (WE did this and that) so i wonder who you are working with? Sorry if that was already said.
To be honest, the "Trailer" you presented was pretty weird. I expected to see glimpses of the environment, also maybe a full track showing how the environment could be used but this is no trailer. It's just a bunch of cars driving through a water hole and over little, really bad looking sand hills.
If you don't know which trailer i mean:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDGcAYUwlMI You said it's an early alpha but on the other hand you wrote in the info that this "project" is finished? Finished how? Did you give up? Or is the stuff in this thread the only thing we will get?
Maybe you should first grow up and then learn to do such big projects right. You have some good ambitions but you're not old enough to handle this. Also this Project would need a lot more knowledge about modding btw.
Re: TrackMania Lake + Seaside discussions
Posted: 24 Sep 2015, 18:39
by Florenzius
Ok,
first, it was a "water-test". I said, i have to rename it to "Water-Test, don't watch OUTDATED"
I didn't give up, but did you read the previous messages of this thread? I said "finished", but i said, we're working on a big update. In this update the titlepack gets a new base-title, a new name and a new concept. A simply 'upgrade'. The new title is seaside. I know, Lake was my first big TP and a fail. Not just a Community-Fail, a concept-fail too. We started wrong.
And i know, you don't hear many about seaside, but in the background we are working on many things. And we're really productive. 1/3 of the big update is done, after it will come bugfixes and then we will see...
I don't may share our current work, but i do it now.
Re: TrackMania Lake + Seaside discussions
Posted: 24 Sep 2015, 19:42
by wooloo
Darkhawk wrote:If i may ask:
You wrote in plural (WE did this and that) so i wonder who you are working with? Sorry if that was already said.
In Seaside, the big update for the Lake title pack, are at the moment mainly Flo(Mania design), Adamkoo(Arkady Smurf) and me involved. In Lake there were, if I recall right, additional some other people involved.
Re: TrackMania Lake + Seaside discussions
Posted: 24 Sep 2015, 19:59
by adamkooo2
wooloo wrote:Darkhawk wrote:If i may ask:
You wrote in plural (WE did this and that) so i wonder who you are working with? Sorry if that was already said.
In Seaside, the big update for the Lake title pack, are at the moment mainly Flo(Mania design), Adamkoo(Arkady Smurf) and me involved. In Lake there were, if I recall right, additional some other people involved.
I renamed because of three "O"s
Re: TrackMania Lake + Seaside discussions
Posted: 25 Sep 2015, 05:42
by Florenzius
Yes, wooloo. You can write better