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Re: Rules for RoC servers and explanations for ladder server
Posted: 14 Aug 2012, 14:32
by HaagseSmurf
laurens92 wrote: I would love it, if the pro players would all play to get rid of non-capable-roc-players.
Thats really community minded thinking
If all so-called pro-players (a pro player is a player who got paid for driving a race game?

) think like that you will only need 1 roc server, because nobody else would be welcome.
In my opinion everbody, pro or not-pro should have the same chance to participate in ROC. If you have 80 K then you are allowed on a ROC server. There a no other obligations, such as pro-ness to participate. After all this is a race game where some people drive for ladder points and some dont. If you dont want to drive for ladder points then dont and participate in competitions you do like. Let others who want to drive for points do what they like.
3 Servers with all 15 players in the queue is not enough. With that amount of people you should have 5 servers and there will be about 5 players in each queue. So 5 servers would be enough i think
Greetz,
Re: Rules for RoC servers and explanations for ladder server
Posted: 14 Aug 2012, 23:22
by serujio
Re: Rules for RoC servers and explanations for ladder server
Posted: 15 Aug 2012, 01:57
by laurens92
How higher the ranks, How more LP you get..
But still, 5 servers is way too much, when a person is requeued, he isn't good enough.
He can wait several tracks, or just stop playing. 10 players in queue is good ;D some excitement.
Re: Rules for RoC servers and explanations for ladder server
Posted: 15 Aug 2012, 22:43
by serujio
so, if you can be in a server with other top 8 ranked players to win as much LP as you can, I can´t understand why do you want to have other 10 players watching you.
Re: Rules for RoC servers and explanations for ladder server
Posted: 16 Aug 2012, 01:44
by laurens92
It's not going about being watched, lol ;O..
It's going about;
too many servers ==> More players can play ==> they can avoid the pro's ==> "noobs" come higher..
Re: Rules for RoC servers and explanations for ladder server
Posted: 16 Aug 2012, 15:04
by serujio
if they can´t come higher than you, because you will win over best ranked players and get more LP, I like to see they coming higher easily as a good thing, because the game don´t have much players, so if these players feel more motivated because they can get better ranks, they will play more, and bring more of their friends, and talk about the game, etc.
like Haagse said, I believe "community" is more important.
Re: Rules for RoC servers and explanations for ladder server
Posted: 16 Aug 2012, 18:12
by tcq
serujio wrote:if they can´t come higher than you, because you will win over best ranked players and get more LP, I like to see they coming higher easily as a good thing, because the game don´t have much players, so if these players feel more motivated because they can get better ranks, they will play more, and bring more of their friends, and talk about the game, etc.
like Haagse said, I believe "community" is more important.
Of course the community is important, but the RoC servers are designed to be the place were the strong win over the weak or at least this is the theory behind it.
If you increase the amount of servers to let all players over 80k play (which are 1100 players, if they care about the ladder) this would be a whole mess because a lot of servers will be empty. If you reduce the amount of servers (as nadeo did), you create a "survival of the fittest" situation. The people that want to play on high ranked servers are forced to be good prepared (in this case it means they trained on the maps that the specific server holds, that they want to play on) or are naturally high skilled and can play maps on a good level without much train. If you do not fall into one category then you will find the RoC system unfair because you get kicked and need to take some time in the spectator queue until you can play again. But on the other hand, it is also true that good players feel disappointed by bad players on a server because this players reduce the amount of fun for them that comes out of tight races. And as I said in the beginning playing on the Race of Champions means you need to compete with good players for the title of the best. The more server, the more you weaken this ideology. This has nothing to do with being unfair towards the community in general, but one part of the community consists out of the so called "pro gamers". I think this is the term that laurens tries to define here and he means players that are willed to fight for points AND (this AND is the important factor) that have the skill to fight for points on a high level during this special three hours.
But how to solve this problem? My personal Idea would be to give a map pack out that should be used by all RoC servers over a distinct time course. This would create an equality between the different servers and together with an implementation of a master queue that contains all players that want to drive the RoC, the distribution of players over the different server would be fair to all players and not depending on the RoC you joined at the beginning.
Just my two cents, feel free to ignore it

Re: Rules for RoC servers and explanations for ladder server
Posted: 16 Aug 2012, 18:51
by basiji
agreed with tcq. one should must obey

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Re: Rules for RoC servers and explanations for ladder server
Posted: 17 Aug 2012, 15:50
by Cerovan
Unfortunately i'll not be able to set up the new RoC this week, i had an unexpected issue which prevent me to authorize the RoC this week.
I hope it'll fixed for the next week

Re: Rules for RoC servers and explanations for ladder server
Posted: 17 Aug 2012, 17:26
by sbone
Cerovan wrote:sbone wrote:...
Sorry about that, i wanted to grant you the authorization but i was too short in time (the preparations for the GamesCom take me busy a lot), it should be ok for this week-end (moreover i wait answers for others RoC admin to know if they can setup their servers or not

)

Cerovan wrote:Unfortunately i'll not be able to set up the new RoC this week, i had an unexpected issue which prevent me to authorize the RoC this week.
I hope it'll fixed for the next week

So mine is ok or no any new ?
Thanks.