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Re: Team chase, what is ?

Posted: 13 Feb 2015, 17:31
by Guerro323
I made a map for Team chase.
http://tm.mania-exchange.com/tracks/view/80317
I think, it will be more serious now d:

Re: Team chase, what is ?

Posted: 13 Feb 2015, 17:58
by Stephen_yen
It's a very fun gamemode indeed, It requires teamwork in a different way than before, you have to think about how you drive, trying to maintain as much speed as possible while allowing the person pass you.
oiram456 wrote: - it happened several time to me that i was slightly behind a player (also at the bottom you could see that the server thinks that i was last) but the one who was slightly infront of me counted as the last player who has to pass the next cp first
Same here, driving behind a car at the checkpoint, and then we lose the point because the game thinks that I was first over the line...
acceleracer_01 wrote:Also an annoying thing is that people who lost connection during the transfer from lobby to server slow down the whole matchmaking process by a lot. If one player is missing, you lose about 2 minutes by selecting the map, starting one round which gets cancelled immediately due to the missing player and getting transferred back to the lobby. It would be best to extend the time to find a substitute in case one of the players has a netlost.
agreed,
It would also be nice if for people who don't have fast internet, that there aren't 2 loading screens one after the other, one before the map choice and one after it. can't the map choice be done in the lobby?

Re: Team chase, what is ?

Posted: 13 Feb 2015, 18:40
by Eole
oiram456 wrote: - it happened several time to me that i was slightly behind a player (also at the bottom you could see that the server thinks that i was last) but the one who was slightly infront of me counted as the last player who has to pass the next cp first
I confirm this bug. If the gap between two players is lower than ~10ms then the mode can select the wrong player as the first/last one. It will be fixed in the next update.
official.nando wrote:Would it be possible in the progessive mode to avoid a 2 vs 3 situation?
It's a tricky problem because we have to find a good balance between enjoyment and equity. It's kind of sad to be forced into spectator because a player of the other team left the game. Moreover it would be hard to select which player should be forced into spectator. At first we paused the game when a player left the match but it was also annoying. The best solution would be of course that players simply don't leave a match. For now Trackmania players don't know well how the matchmaking and the game mode work, this encourage a lot of them to leave. In a few days I think that the situation should be better. And if it's still a "leave fest" then we'll have to find a way to discourage people to leave, the penalty system being one of the options. A part of the 2vs3 problem is also caused by a bug on the lobby server that we are investigating and hope to fix soon.
oiram456 wrote:On matchmaking servers, if ur not ready and click on rules and then hide the whole window, the rules will stay in the middle of the screen.
Fixed in the next update.
oiram456 wrote:sometimes it skips the possibility to vote for a map (seemed less after the last hotfix)
The waiting time before the map vote will be a longer in the next update (45 seconds instead of 20).

Re: Team chase, what is ?

Posted: 13 Feb 2015, 19:47
by novationx
the best would be to make penalties way way longer.
It's my biggest complaint with SM-Matchmaking : People leave 24/7

The only reason why this isnt happening in other games is because there they have penalties of 30min to 1 week.

So to avoid 2v3 situations I would just do that :)

Re: Team chase, what is ?

Posted: 13 Feb 2015, 19:59
by Guerro323
novationx wrote:the best would be to make penalties way way longer.
It's my biggest complaint with SM-Matchmaking : People leave 24/7

The only reason why this isnt happening in other games is because there they have penalties of 30min to 1 week.

So to avoid 2v3 situations I would just do that :)
Nope it's bad idea.

Re: Team chase, what is ?

Posted: 13 Feb 2015, 20:15
by novationx
When you call something bad/good then at least say why ;)
PS : I never said I want penalties of 1 week. But at least longer than what we have now.

Re: Team chase, what is ?

Posted: 13 Feb 2015, 20:20
by Guerro323
novationx wrote:When you call something bad/good then at least say why ;)
PS : I never said I want penalties of 1 week. But at least longer than what we have now.
When I crash, I don't want a penaltie of 1 day
When I freeze, I don't want a penaltie of 1 day
When my connection is bad, I don't want a penaltie of 1 day
When I'm kicked by a votekick, I don't want a penaltie of 1 day.

Re: Team chase, what is ?

Posted: 13 Feb 2015, 20:29
by TheBigMiike
The penalties can be progressive ;)
If a player has got a problem 1 time, no penalties. If he leave 2 times a week the game, then he has 5 minutes of penalties, etc...

1 error : No penalties
2 errors : 5 minutes
3 errors : 1hour
4 errors : 1 day
5 errors : 1 week

;)

Re: Team chase, what is ?

Posted: 13 Feb 2015, 20:39
by novationx
Penalties are already progressive :thumbsup:
And okay, you crash then , idd , you dont deserve a penalty.

Maybe the penalty should be linked to the "exit game" button? :)

Re: Team chase, what is ?

Posted: 13 Feb 2015, 20:43
by official.nando
Made a map for Team Chase:
http://tm.mania-exchange.com/s/tr/80329