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Re: Why removing new cam 2 instead of SIMPLY KEEPING BOTH?

Posted: 09 May 2013, 16:19
by spoons
eyebo wrote:Are you referring to where he said "Fixed stadium camera 2", because that referred to changing the cam2 to match the cam2 from tmnf, which did happen with that update.
Ah so no need to get my hopes up for cam 2 from the beta then? i can just go ahead and sell my account.

Re: Why removing new cam 2 instead of SIMPLY KEEPING BOTH?

Posted: 09 May 2013, 16:25
by eyebo
That's not to say that cam2 with the high fov won't return as a different cam. But I don't think it's been announced yet. So you can't expect it. You can only hope for it.

Re: Why removing new cam 2 instead of SIMPLY KEEPING BOTH?

Posted: 22 May 2013, 10:37
by empy90
Still no option to use the cam 2 from beta? Seriously nadeo, fix it.
I'm not touching this game until you give us back that cam. The current one is way too close up, can't see anything.

Re: Why removing new cam 2 instead of SIMPLY KEEPING BOTH?

Posted: 22 May 2013, 16:16
by luftisbollentm2
eyebo wrote:That's not to say that cam2 with the high fov won't return as a different cam. But I don't think it's been announced yet. So you can't expect it. You can only hope for it.
well said eyebo

i play with cam 3 so it doesn´t bother me but i feel bad for those who like it ;)

Re: Why removing new cam 2 instead of SIMPLY KEEPING BOTH?

Posted: 22 May 2013, 17:21
by Ozon
empy90 wrote:Still no option to use the cam 2 from beta? Seriously nadeo, fix it.
I'm not touching this game until you give us back that cam. The current one is way too close up, can't see anything.
Your problem.

Re: Why removing new cam 2 instead of SIMPLY KEEPING BOTH?

Posted: 22 May 2013, 17:34
by Omnixor
killaprod, stop this "everything nadeo does is good" bullshit, seriously. empy's right, many ppl started to enjoy new cam2, now it's annoying for them that it disappeared. and definitely not his problem, but nadeo's.

Re: Why removing new cam 2 instead of SIMPLY KEEPING BOTH?

Posted: 22 May 2013, 18:31
by Hylis
Omnixor, you will have probably observed that your quite strong attack were based on trouble with camera link to MT. What is interesting, is that you are now saying that we should add cameras, when you just said that we should not add things but fix others. If we add many cameras, it means that we have to support them for all environments and all options, like the one you just said that was the most important thing.

So, we have 3 cameras, and that's how it is at the moment. We have many other priorities before thinking on adding another camera to all Trackmania. You even told that we should do the old camera 7 before thinking on doing the camera beta 2. And seeing from how high is the camera 7 priority in all the things that are wished, from all players, I doubt it would be high on the list itself.

I am sorry, of course, of the lack of the camera 2 of stadium that were there if players were liking it. But I had to make a choice when some people made strong negative comments.
Omnixor wrote:in new stadium, cam2 is much less driveable than in TMF
Stop being too negative, maybe.

Re: Why removing new cam 2 instead of SIMPLY KEEPING BOTH?

Posted: 23 May 2013, 12:43
by empy90
Hylis wrote:I am sorry, of course, of the lack of the camera 2 of stadium that were there if players were liking it. But I had to make a choice when some people made strong negative comments.
So there is no hope for you to give us back the good cam 2 or add a cam 4 or whatever and let the whiners keep their cam 2?

Re: Why removing new cam 2 instead of SIMPLY KEEPING BOTH?

Posted: 23 May 2013, 16:15
by Ozon
Omnixor wrote:killaprod, stop this "everything nadeo does is good" bullshit, seriously. empy's right, many ppl started to enjoy new cam2, now it's annoying for them that it disappeared. and definitely not his problem, but nadeo's.
I didn't say I would not share share his opinion ;)
His problem is definetly the way he handles a problem; He said he wouldn't touch the game and I said "Your problem", because he's gonna miss some exciting things coming up to MP :)

Is it the weather? Atleast I am happy^^

Re: Why removing new cam 2 instead of SIMPLY KEEPING BOTH?

Posted: 24 May 2013, 15:01
by Hylis
empy90 wrote:
Hylis wrote:I am sorry, of course, of the lack of the camera 2 of stadium that were there if players were liking it. But I had to make a choice when some people made strong negative comments.
So there is no hope for you to give us back the good cam 2 or add a cam 4 or whatever and let the whiners keep their cam 2?
Adding new cameras is not high on the priority list. The current system is with 3 cameras, and making a 4th means to see how they behave in different situation, and make them for all TMs, and make them work in updates etc. It was more logical to keep the old Stadium camera, so we put the cam 2.