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Darkhawk wrote:

acceleracer_01 wrote:

Darkhawk wrote:Stadium got recycled 3 times.. i mean seriously this gets boring!

TMN ESWC, TMU, TMUF, TM2, TMT. I count 5 recycles!

TMN ESWC is the original so i didn't count that in but okay that still makes 4

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I gotta say, while Stadium isn't my favorite environment, I seem to remember people begging for a version of it for TM² until Nadeo finally gave in and converted, updated and incorporated it, and if it wasn't included in TMT I'm sure people would boohoo about that too. Also TMU and TMUF were all 7 environments in one game. Why wouldn't it be included? I don't think including the most popular environment in new versions should be viewed as a "recycle", but rather a standard inclusion or even a bonus. Remember, it was Stadium that got Nadeo into the Guinness Book of Records.

So on PC stadium is most popular? Well on PS4 it's Canyon that rules. There are only 2 or 3 stadium servers active there.
I guess the console public thinks Canyon looks most like need for speed and the likes. Hardly any Lagoon or Valley-only servers.

I think it's because of how the solo campaing works... Everybody played Canyon but they had to finish the 10 maps to go Valley, then those 10 maps to Lagoon, and again 10 to Stadium............

So all the players on console (let's say 90% new trackmaniacs) just played a little of the campaing then went online. Because well, they pay to be able to play online, why would they lose time on campaing.
They all know how to play Canyon, I think some of them didn't even played Lagoon or Stadium in the campaing, and so Canyon is the most popular and the most played environment.

Demented wrote:I gotta say, while Stadium isn't my favorite environment, I seem to remember people begging for a version of it for TM² until Nadeo finally gave in and converted, updated and incorporated it, and if it wasn't included in TMT I'm sure people would boohoo about that too. Also TMU and TMUF were all 7 environments in one game. Why wouldn't it be included? I don't think including the most popular environment in new versions should be viewed as a "recycle", but rather a standard inclusion or even a bonus. Remember, it was Stadium that got Nadeo into the Guinness Book of Records.

Well i don't say anything about the inclusion in TMU/F because that was totally fine as it had to be included.

But with TM2 we could have had 3 completely new environments instead of 2 new and 1 old. That's my problem. And now with TMT they again had the opportunity to do something new together with Lagoon. Fine for me to recycle Canyon and Valley there, because these were the 2 new envis from TM2 and Nadeo wanted to show them to the Console people, but Stadium had nothing to do there! And for fucks sake i can only hope that Nadeo will stop implementing it in every coming TM game because this could really end up in discussions like " Is Nadeo out of creativity to release Stadium x times?" And at that point i don't care if it's the most bought envi or something like that because that is just a very bad excuse for trying to milk one envi out of...9?10? time and time again..

The reason I believe Canyon is the most popular is because it's the most satisfying and easier to drive compared to Valley and Lagoon, everybody loves drifting, and the other two are way more technical and harder.

The reason is simpler - people like what they already know.

Darkhawk wrote:...But with TM2 we could have had 3 completely new environments instead of 2 new and 1 old. That's my problem...

I have to agree.
Nadeo can be very creative and I'd like to see the next environment be something really new and unexpected. Canyon, Valley and Lagoon, while each cool in their own ways. are very similar to Desert, Rally and Bay. Will something similar to Coast be next or will there be something totally fresh and unseen for TM? There have been some good suggestions made in the last few years for new environments.

Filipe1020 wrote:The reason I believe Canyon is the most popular is because it's the most satisfying and easier to drive compared to Valley and Lagoon, everybody loves drifting, and the other two are way more technical and harder.

This is false, I hate drifting.

@Nadeo: How long you will update the game?