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This whole thing of b2/b3 and eswc maps feels like we are asking for help and support and you turn your back and laugh at us .. just sayin..

PapyChampy wrote:I'm open to all suggestions for a new maplist, but so far the proposals are not up to what ESWC asked for.

Rust may be a good map but is far from being good looking. (And yeah, that matters.)

And frankly, by reading most posts : chill out. You clearly don't understand the creative process behind maps.

you can't be seriously taking in consideration beautiful and fancy maps wich are completely nonsense from a gameplay point of view?

can i ask what's ugly about rust?

Creative what ?
You clearly don't know what maps made for eSports mean then. Who gives a darn about the appearance, quake/UT were ugly as shit and still it was enjoyable to watch.

TORAKI wrote:This whole thing of b2/b3 and eswc maps feels like we are asking for help and support and you turn your back and laugh at us .. just sayin..

Fulfilling every wish of a handful of pro players, disregarding all of the other players has never been part of Nadeo's plans.

Many pro players advices were and still are valuable. This doesn't mean the game must be ruled only by those.

I never heard a tournament complain because maps arent beautiful...
Seriously? What am i reading? My eyes hurt.

my mappool :

Malevolence ( its a beautiful map with atmosphere )
Golden Rush. ( good attacking routes left - right & mid.
Paladin2K13. ( its a classic )
Spitfire ( again a classic. you can left, right & mid. it has grass, nucleus , rail , wooden slide )
Castle2
Rust ( classic )

pfff im not even finishing this list.... Making maps beautiful is not a criteria?
Its not a fashion show????? its esports.


Btw : if maps are ugly atm: Its NADEOS fault.
And we cant create a new competitive map everytime a new block is released.
The mappool for octobre will have maps with new blocks.


Djeezes , Papy , ur post really made me mad. Beautiful? Srsly? Urghhh
Also , handful? join EVERY public server and ask our opinions. I challenge you. Do it.

Or do they have hands in france with 100fingers?

PapyChampy wrote:

TORAKI wrote:This whole thing of b2/b3 and eswc maps feels like we are asking for help and support and you turn your back and laugh at us .. just sayin..

Fulfilling every wish of a handful of pro players, disregarding all of the other players has never been part of Nadeo's plans.

Many pro players advices were and still are valuable. This doesn't mean the game must be ruled only by those.

thanks for the answer , im not talking or rapresenting tho a handful of players, i talk for what the whole elite scene thinks ; and to be honest i know alot of joust and obstacle player too and seems everybody is complaining from this whole situation. this whole ESWC thing was the last straw i don't hear i positive thing from weeks now.. all i hear is " im switching to quake , im quitting, im switching to that".. and it really broke my heart

Keremz wrote:you did maps that did not even fulfill what nadeo admins said they wanted such as rooftops for spectators matters. This fact only shows how much some guys in charge of this supervised it properly.

Should remind here that organizing (picking maps etc) the ESWC is NOT Nadeo's job.
Anyway what I think would be the most viable solution to make everyone happy is contact the eswc staff so that they start a poll with the maps from the most recent mappack & classic maps like collided, the castle & some of the new maps and let the community vote.

But complaining to Nadeo about it is not gonna do a thing. Because they don't have anything to do with it.

Malevolence and Golden Rush (especially Malevolence) are full of grills => Not suitable considering the restrictions.

And, for the last time : Don't get mad at me while I'm taking time on my vacations to explain things to you, as I'm only following what ESWC officials wanted.

PapyChampy wrote:I'm open to all suggestions for a new maplist, but so far the proposals are not up to what ESWC asked for.

Rust may be a good map but is far from being good looking. (And yeah, that matters.)

And frankly, by reading most posts : chill out. You clearly don't understand the creative process behind maps.

Who got time to care about how the map should look when its a good map! Doesn't make sense :S If the maps are great and who care how good it looks! Ask good players like high teams really not shitty players to test the maps and get some feedback from them.

Every singel update or mappool you get upset and I ashamed about this game.... like stop changeing things all the f*** time.. every 1-2 months this game get more shitty because of new mappool or new necessary update... Beta 3 sucks!

Dont have a problem with a 1-2 maps very 2-3 months but they should be a good maps and they get tested by good high team players! not bazinga guys or some random noob from a public server!

STOP DESTROY THIS GAME!

Since the start of Shootmania there been several mappools some good some bad, but this takes the price. Dont get me wrong i like Spitfire Paladin Collided and CC. But the 3 new maps are so bad for elite in all ways possible,we found after 2 minutes of jumping around 3 ways of getting highground and be able to abuse the map totally. And the thing with "good looking map" i can understand in a sence but isnt it the gameplay that really matters? whould you buy a shit computer just cause it looks good?

If u want a map to be good looking and the players want a actual good map for elite why not do a remake on the current map and add some "cool shit" that wont affect any of the map.

OR let the cummunity make maps, get them tested and upload a votepoll.

cause there so disrespectful for people that been practicing shootmania and with this mappool its not shootmania anymore.