Questions & Answers Trackmania Turbo

[GanjaRider]

As selfcalled ambassador of (stadium) full speed I'd like to point out that adding cam 1 would make loopings even worse. The current cam (2) is lower to the ground so you can see more in front of you than cam 1. Loopings are now nearly doable but will be undoable in cam 1. So only add cam 1 combined with bumper cams or don't add cam 1.

Edit. I just tested in TM2 stadium and with cam 1 the camera goes outside of the looping.

[i7mean]

Hmm what ?

Adding CAM1 doesn't mean "replacing CAM2 by CAM1". Both will exist and the CAM2 you want is still there.

Moreover, is fullspeed the only style played in Stadium ?

[GanjaRider]

If you release a track it should be playable for both cams. And of course there are more styles but I just love fs.

And defending fs comes second, first of all I'm trying to save loopings. It just so happens that fs has alot of loopings. And cmon what would TM be without loopings.

[franck70]

like LOVE, TMT have some default, sure, that's why we love it

[Hylis]

As you see now - after few posts and normal conversation everyone feels better and understand more.

exactly, after sorting out some misunderstandings on either side

Not really, I am still banned. When you ban people who are critical, you do not even allow the process of sorting out misunderstandings to take place. This does not help to promote discussion, it only silences it.

The process is easy: apologize for the negativeness and then sort out whatever you wish in a positive way.

This place should remain where the developper meet the players. And since their role is to develop and not support the negativeness of players, it's logical that they can decide if they accept negativeness or only constructive critics. Otherwise, the solution would be to make another forum where we welcome people that are ready to be constructive.

The ones that are reporting troubles, bugs, wish things, have critics to do are super welcomed. The ones that has the biggest difficulties with the game and still take their time to come and explain are really positive. The ones that still seems to ignore the difference between being negative & critics needs to stay away for the good sake of the other players and the developpers, for in the end, the good of the game itself.

[fng_thatoneguy]

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But I don't think that adding tracknames (as option), "default cam" settings (like I said before), fixing connection problems, adding some 1 or 2 filters in multiplayer or adding room names that are things that change this game.
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All good points.

• Allowing users to set track names when creating tracks (difficult, if not impossible right now to recognize tracks you know you like) -- agreed
• Fixing connection problems - I haven't run into these yet, but I've only connected with a few friends, I haven't had time to hit normal servers yet (finishing up a death-march at my own software dev job). Sorry to hear that those things are happening.
• Filters/search for finding servers would be very useful.
• Room names would be nice too.

So I'll add my +1 to those requests. Just remember that Nadeo is still a small dev shop and they will have to prioritize all the work ahead. Hopefully if some of those things are simple to implement (famous last words) -- they'll be able to prioritize them in and get them completed.

[rat_in_car]

Just remember that Nadeo is still a small dev shop and they will have to prioritize all the work ahead.

And that's what I'm afraid. I still remember that "bugfixing" in ManiaPlanet. At the beginning people talking about shadows - in options there was possibility to set it like in TMUF - from "none" to "very high", but only "high" and "very high" works. I was convinced that everything will be fixed and it's not a problem for Nadeo to made "medium" or "none" settings works. After a some weeks Nadeo finally "fix" that problem by... rename options. They rename "high" to "normal" and "very high" to "complex". And remove rest of options. So - they do not fix anything in fact but rename options.

Second, I remember that FxCameraMap has bug that makes this option useless - locators don't work and there was no "Add URL" option in MT for this. So - option was useless for online. I report that in 2012 and we have 2016. Even lowest priority bugs should be fixed after 4 years, right? So if we have some "low priority" bugs now, then in my experience, they will never be fixed. And I don't want to wait 4 years to say "I was right, this bug is still unfixed".

Prioritization is not good. I give you an example - if police works based on prioritization, then they never find a thief who stole your wallet, because at first they must find all murderers, then rapists, then thugs etc. And because is not possible to catch them all, they never work on low priority stealing.

It's the same here in game. Programmer should fix all bugs - small and big, without prioritization. This is the only guarantee that something will be done. The only lower priority things may be those improvements that require a lot of time and gives really small advantages.

And before something from Nadeo starts to talk how prioritization is important etc. I want to ask - do you even have FxCameraMap on your bug list? It was reported years ago.

[Hylis]

To answer the track name / server name again, I think you really need to see how it could be complicated to moderate names in all langage for all stuff in the years to come. You have really negative people that would insult other players with their room names in the browser list just to piss them off. You also have really negative people that do not understand that some lines are blurry and are really pissed off when they get moderated, so it makes long debates.

We had to install Turbo to be able to last as long as possible in an efficient way and with ten of thousands of rooms and tracks already in the first month, I doubt that it would have been a solution to make this totally open. For server names, in addition, we have seen over the pass year that it was often the name of the host or host team link to the style of the server. For the maps, the system we thought with multiple names would have been better potentially but like I said, it was a time development or priority question.

[rat_in_car]

You have really negative people that would insult other players with their room names in the browser list just to piss them off.

Hmmm, we have United, we have TM2 and lot of rooms. Show me please at least one insulting server name there. I never seen anything like that.
In theory everything may be done - in previous TM people can made maps with hardcore porn images (or even movies), with music with explicit lyrics or mods with lot of insulting words on buildings. But that never happens before.

Btw. (offtopic) - another suggestion - for people who has Ech2 or bigger should be an option to disable Nadeo intro. We see this animation lot of times already. :)

[i7mean]

Maybe the console players are younger and sometimes very stupid (who said Call of Duty players?) so this is an excuse to not allow names on servers or tracks. But well, this is not very good. PC also have his package of negative players but as rat said we've never seen such thing in TMUF, TM2...
Plus I think a server called "y'all sons of ***** motherf*****" wouldn't take too long to be signaled and deleted. Just a bit of moderation needed.

But yeah, in PC we've never seen that so why would we see it on console... that's just my opinion.