Need some help!

[riolu]

Hey guys,
as I am planning to buy a new pc soon, I was searching a lot to find a good one for a reasonable price.
In an online store I found this rig:
http://www.one.de/shop/product_info.php ... 132e8d6e88
The price is definitely alright, but I'm not sure if the gfx card can handle TM/SM and other games decently.

6x 3.3 Ghz (I guess thats enough)
8192MB DDR3 RAM (also enough imo)
1000GB HDD (ok)
2048MB AMD Radeon HD6570 (<- now thats important to me)

Maybe some guy with more knowledge concerning these things can give me some advice
greetz,
riolu!

[Omnixor]

http://videocardbenchmark.net/video_loo ... on+HD+6570

it will handle TM/SM probably, but not on max settings with max fps ^^ building your own PC is always better, and usually cheaper.

[tcq]

Should definitely be enough to play it on low up to middle resolution without problems.

Compared to the 5600/5500 series cards that the 6670 and 6570 replace, both cards are nice mid-cycle updates. Performance is up by over 10% for the 6670, while the 6570 is very close to the 5670. Without a die shrink, this is probably the best AMD can do to iterate on Redwood.

The problem of course is that based solely on performance, the sub-$100 market is too crowded. As long as power consumption and a low-profile form factor are not concerns, the Radeon HD 5770 and GeForce GTS 450 are both regularly on sale for under $100 and are easily 30% faster than the 6670. Cards like the 6670 and 6570 have their place, but it’s not as performance kings. For that, higher-tier cards on sale have and will continue to be the better buy.

Read the full test here.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4278/amds ... hd-6570/16

If you have the choice between the 6670 and the 6570, definitely take the first one.

building your own PC is always better, and usually cheaper.

This might help you, when building your own PC Stuff might be already cheaper, since this was last year in October. Build a Gaming PC for $500
A more recent one: best-budget-gaming-pc
This link will help you a lot: budget-gamingpc

And here you can find some stuff about GPUs, just check this two articles of the German site PCGH.de.
Grafikkarten Rangliste 2012 mit Kauftipps
Bestenliste Radeon und Geforce

[riolu]

Well, I don't think I have enough knowledge to build a decent pc by myself.
btw, the website which offers the machine I posted above offers different gfx cards (as well as GPU, HDD and extras like built-in WLAN, headsets, keyboards and mice, etc).
The following gfx cards are available:

1024 MB AMD Radeon HD 6670 (I guess that's the gfx card you meant tcq?) (costs 5 euros more)
4096 MB NVIDIA Geforce GT 630 (sounds good, it costs 15 euros more, maybe its the money worth?)
1024 MB AMD Radeon HD 6770 (+45 euros, I'm not sure if its good enough to spend these 45 euros)
1024MB AMD Radeon HD 7750 (+45 euros too)

So which card can you recommend for its price?
And are the CPU and RAM enough to play and work decently? (6x 3.3 Ghz, 8192MB DDR3 RAM)

thx again

[tcq]

With a low budget gaming PC, the matter isn't the CPU, but the GPU. Therefore it would be way better to buy a slower CPU and invest more money into a faster GPU.
In your case, I would say the CPU is completely over powered with this slow GPU. Depending on, if you are aiming for the usage of multithreaded programs, then keep your CPU, but if you mostly gonna use applications which are for single threads, then the FX-4100 is faster. You can check a test between the FX-6100 and the FX-4100 here.
About your graphics card question, you can take a look at this test here. http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/HD_7750/1.html. The 7750 completely outperforms the 6670 (depending on, if your 6670 is a GDDR5 version or not). But the biggest difference between the 6670 and the 7750 is, that the latter one consumes way less power.

But if you want, you can add me on ICQ and I could create a custom PC for you, ask your team leader for my number

[adder]

I'm going to buy a new pc also
this is what I'll go for:

What do you think about this: ?
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/61472747/mm.xps

Also, I like an additional SSD, but I can't find on with SLC instead of MLC (i don't want my SSD dead after 4 years)
Do you know a good one (I only want to place windows on it, so i shouldn't be a big one)

702 euro's, not that expensive

[tcq]

About the SLC SSDs, maybe it's worth to wait for the SuperSSpeed S301 Hyper SLC 120GB Solid State Drive. Not yet out, but looks really promising.

About your configuration, looks okay on a first glance but maybe you could do some digging for a 6950? Not sure atm, would need to look it up but I think if you get a 2GB version if this one it might be faster and the price difference isn't this great atm.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/540?vs=510

[adder]

there is a increase in power usage when playing games though.
I guess I'll change my power supply then.
(it was already just enough, so I'll play safe ^^)

[tcq]

I think your psu is strong enough for this system. Even under gaming conditions, it shouldn't exceed 450watt.

[riolu]

@ tcq, I don't use ICQ anymore, you got skype? ;D

BTT, I assume that TM/SM and most of the other daily used programs are single-threaded programs?
If yes, I will probably choose the FX-4100 with 4x 3,6 GHz then (it even costs 15 euros less).
Which programs are using multi-threads (I guess something like video editing software, Photoshop etc?) ?

So in the end, this could be my assembling for the pc:
CPU: AMD FX-4100 4x 3.6 GHz
GPU: 1024MB AMD Radeon HD 7750
Mainboard: Gigabyte GA-78LMT-S2P
Power supply: 300 Watt
CD/DVD drive: 22x DVD+-RW Double Layer
HDD: 1000 GB SATA II, recertified
OS: Win 7 Home Premium 64 bit (80 euros)

548,98€ would be the price for the machine.