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Unfortunately i am currently not able to play and/or enjoy TM Stadium 2 because of the issues i feel the game has. I have mentioned these in the 2 latest "wishlists", but as of yet, the issues are still unresolved.

I also see other users have comments on this, so i feel i am not completely alone with these issues.

Now, as fall is approaching, many cups and competitions are starting, scheduled to last past new years. In the current state of the game i simply cannot attend these with my team and play the game (use the Product) i have purchased.

I want with this, to have a clarification from Nadeo if these issues are: 1) Confirmed as issues. 2) Confirmed it is beeing worked on. 3) A timeschedule for when the issues can be resolved.

For some background info, i can tell you that i am a computer enthusiast. i buy expensive hardware in order to be able to play my games and do my work at maximum settings with maximum performance. There are absolutely no problems with my computer, set-up or configuration. All my other games and programs runs without any problems or issues.

For the issues i am experiencing with TM Stadium2, i am using TMUF as a reference. Please note that i am NOT using this to bash ManiaPlanet or any other Environment in the series, on the contrary, i welcome and are positive to these even though they do not interest me. I simply use it as a reference because it was ported into TM2 and i want to keep on playing and enjoy it as is did in TMUF. None of these issues are present in TMUF.

The issues i am experiencing and want resolved are:

Graphics quality/improved AA:
As i run TMS2 on the highest settings (mostly), as you all know, FXAA, is the only AA available. FXAA is just plain ugly, sorry. If i set "Antialising" to "None" it is like going back to the 90's. If i try to force Another AA (CSAA) from Nvidia CP it simply makes a mess of the whole thing as it seems it is unsupported? My whole screen is just "vibrating" as Nvidia CP tries to apply AA "on the run".

It is established that the "only" AA available on "high" and "Very high" shaders is FSAA and that this has issues.

Sound
I find that the road rumble and skidding sounds on dirt are way too loud, going on top of the Engine sound and makes me loose the "Contact" with the car. This may not be a problem for those playing on a laptop, but for me with a 5.1 system and a subwoofer it becomes very annoying. It is also the same if i use a headset, both in 5.1 and 2.0 stereo. This is the way i play, am i not "allowed" to use this kind of speakers and/or do Nadeo only do this game for laptops? This issue was also established. and a fix was promised, but still nothing has happened?

In-Game lag/Pauses
I am having these short freezes when playing and they make you f.ex. loose the line in a turn. Several people have mentioned this issue or similar issues here and here but nothing seems to happen?

So, going back to the top, will i abe able to join my team for the coming competitions and events: 1) Confirmed as issues? 2) Confirmed it is beeing worked on? 3) A timeschedule for when the issues can be resolved?

Thanks in advance!

PS: As this is a direct question and post to Nadeo, the developer, i kindly ask other users (incl. mods) to not reply and clog up this thread. As i see it, only Nadeo are able to fix this and hence, the only once beeing able to give a proper answer.

PSS: If any relevance, my pc-spec: Evga X58 Classified3, i7 950 @3.8ghz, 12gb Dominator GT ram, Corsair ForceGT SSD, Evga 580 GTX in 2-SLI, X-Fi titanium Fatality soundcard, Logitech Z5500 speakers, Dell u2711 27" monitor @ 2560x1440.

I've started a little help file about the in game debugger which can help to find the cause of your freeze problem : http://maniaplanet.github.io/documentat ... ugger.html

Could you post the screenshots of it?

magnetik wrote:I've started a little help file about the in game debugger which can help to find the cause of your freeze problem : http://maniaplanet.github.io/documentat ... ugger.html

Could you post the screenshots of it?

Thank you for your answer.

However, i find it difficult, Close to impossible actually, when i get a lag-spike, to pause the histogram with the raised bar in time Before it rolls out of screen.

As far as i see, it is not possible to scroll back to read the history?

I don't share your issues but I agree that FXAA is awful and we really really need some proper AA like MSAA.

If it happens in spectator too, you can stay in spec, Press Ctrl F7, and then Right click pauses the game.

magnetik wrote:If it happens in spectator too, you can stay in spec, Press Ctrl F7, and then Right click pauses the game.

Ok, thanks, will try that. I rarely spec so i don't know if the spikelag appear when speccing.

Also, out of curiosity; what specific info do you get out of a screenshot with the debugger or histogram? I mean, all you see are the bars and some colour codes of the framerates?

Thanks,

Pedal wrote: Also, out of curiosity; what specific info do you get out of a screenshot with the debugger or histogram? I mean, all you see are the bars and some colour codes of the framerates?

The colour codes show different processes/threads of the application and you can see at the moment of the spike lag which one uses the most CPU/GPU and this might help pinpoint the problem.

So Nadeo, any news on this for me?

I posted a screenshot of the analyzer as you requested almost 2 weeks ago now.

Are you running maniaplanet through Steam?

Hellbear found the lag cause:

HellBear wrote:" metoxys" "pedal"
do you guys run the game in steam?
"edk"
i have the same problem and i play the game in steam, i been doing some test, and found that is the steam friends, if i go offline in steam friends, i can play with the video settings all high without having a single sudden lag even with servers full of players, but, with steam friends online, i have those lags with the lowest video settings and even in solo mode
also, does this have something to do with the thing that i see my steam friends no-trackamania-players being show in the ingame friends?

I know that you don't want to back to the 90's but if you set graphics to improve the game performance, does it change something? Do you still encounter your issues?