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LP rediculous and unfair
Posted: 22 Dec 2013, 23:18
by novationx
http://cloud-4.steampowered.com/ugc/506 ... E09D58AAF/
Click the URL?
Is this really supposed to happen?
Okay maybe CPLAY played better, but it was a team victory. CPLAY couldnt have done it alone...
1000LP is btw rediculous. Its sooo much.
Maybe NADEO should take a closer look into this.
Re: LP rediculous and unfair
Posted: 22 Dec 2013, 23:20
by Nerpson
Wow. Impressive.
I think it's a little over-sized.
Re: LP rediculous and unfair
Posted: 23 Dec 2013, 12:20
by djhubertus
3 ATK + 16 DEF, man you have 3x better stats than teammates

Re: LP rediculous and unfair
Posted: 23 Dec 2013, 12:56
by novationx
djhubertus wrote:3 ATK + 16 DEF, man you have 3x better stats than teammates

Yeah Im aware of that... But my teammates have way less matches and they also had several rockets. They get 0.0 LP. Absolutely nothing at all... Thats so unrewarding and it doesnt feel right.
Every player that played the game should get LP imo. Even the losers.
Re: LP rediculous and unfair
Posted: 23 Dec 2013, 13:15
by plopp
I can be completely wrong here, but it feels like you only get LP if you get at least 1 attack. At least when you reach gold level. I've gotten LP with a 1-1 score and no LP with a 16-0 score (against roughly the same level opponents). This makes you feel that defending is something that everyone should be good at and attacking is the ONLY thing that matters.
Re: LP rediculous and unfair
Posted: 23 Dec 2013, 14:22
by novationx
plopp wrote:I can be completely wrong here, but it feels like you only get LP if you get at least 1 attack. At least when you reach gold level. I've gotten LP with a 1-1 score and no LP with a 16-0 score (against roughly the same level opponents). This makes you feel that defending is something that everyone should be good at and attacking is the ONLY thing that matters.
You are probably wrong but , indeed, it feels like this.
Something isnt right about this LP-distribution.
Re: LP rediculous and unfair
Posted: 23 Dec 2013, 15:42
by Alexey85
djhubertus wrote:3 ATK + 16 DEF, man you have 3x better stats than teammates

Aslo, if to consider attacks only, his stats are infinite times better

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Re: LP rediculous and unfair
Posted: 02 Jan 2014, 14:04
by UNFAiiR
Yes I dont get the LP distributioneither. Since you only get LP when you win and atleast make an attack. Once played a match and made 18 rocket hits but no attacks. We won that game anyways but i got 0 LP and their players were also around my rank...
Here also (Im UNFAiiR in the game) I think I deserved some LP after making a succesfull attack and making 10 rocket hits against other ranks 50 or lower. Especially for me who is way better with rockets and not capable of making numerous attacks in one match. It just makes me feel im useless when i dont make any attacks even if i make a lot of rockets hits.
Re: LP rediculous and unfair
Posted: 02 Jan 2014, 14:35
by Hylis
If you are in a winning team AND do some results, then we can award points. If your role generates less points, like if you are really bad at attack and occupy the less likely to bring good hits in defense, then your ranking will be lower. The ladder is based on what could be measured. Ultimately, the winning team have a multiplicator bonus on the LP at the end, but it should be a multiplicator bonus, or somebody doing nothing else than being shot would make ladder points.
Taking only one match into account can not make a matchmaking function right. The doubt of the guy being really good or not should be there as well. Here, Dreammy prove he was capable to do it in this match, so he his awarded like this. The others will have to wait for their statistically better match to arrive. And if it's too long to arrive, it means that they will have reach some sort of their level in the ladder (based on number, not on human judges)
Unfaiir, you are already higly rank, your team lose, you do 3 times less attack and your hit ratio is also four times less. I don't say that the LP award is perfect there, I just say that there is a big doubt enough on your score to let the statistic do their job and wait for you to output better numbers. And it will still be numbers, of course. At least, we can see that you are quite well ranked, and so the result you do seems to be on par with your level.
Winning points on each match is something I may would like, but some people are against. I offered them to debate it with others, before coming back to me.
Re: LP rediculous and unfair
Posted: 02 Jan 2014, 16:21
by novationx
a short reaction:
Its team vs team. The winning team should receive
more LP than the losing team. So not 0 LP.
Dreammy couldnt have won alone. He needed his team to win.
Im not complaining about the 1100LP. I just think its strange that 2 winning players get 0 LP.
1 person had 8 rockets. 8 rockets is not nothing. Its actually pretty much. = he should receive LP.
Maybe they should get 80 & 50 LP. Its still barely nothing compared with the 1100 LP but at least the match wont be for nothing ( in their eyes )
Football: Its not because the goalkeeper didnt have to do 1 save during the entire 90minutes that he doesnt deserve an applaus/victory/cup.
