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We need a dedicated 100K American server. I don't understand what nadeo doesn't get; players are leaving everyday! We even offered to pay for it! We shouldn't have to offer to pay for these sorts of things, we already paid for the game! 100K Matchmaking server? Thats a joke, right? we have 40 active members, and leaving everyday for new games. Having a 100K will greatly benefit the North American SM community, there should be no excuse not to have one, instead of trying to gather up people (which is almost impossible) to play on the matchmaking 100K server, input please. Thanks

I don't understand what nadeo doesn't get

You're not alone ^^

But seriously, if you even offered to pay for it and they still didn't do it, then that's nothing but shameful on Nadeos behalf. Like really shameful.

Why do you always tend to easily blame Nadeo for something they're not always responsible?
Nadeo creates games that rely on the community much more than other games, especially regarding the servers and content creation.
If there was no one willing to setup a own matchmaking server in NA until now, it's not necessarily Nadeos fault.

But perhaps there is only a misunderstanding here.

Now what about this server here? It looks like it is brandnew... Perhaps someone already answered to your call
Ubisoft Elite NA High Level ESWC Maps - 100K

Because Tmarc, they've messed up time and time again and done things in a way that is 10x more difficult than what it should be.

But anyways, here we have someone from NA saying they offered to even pay for it themselves, and it wasn't done (untill very recently it seems, but if people from NA didn't know about it... well, that speaks volumes about failure when active community members aren't aware of it).

And that is enough to blame them for it.

To say "We rely on the community" is saying "we don't take responsibility if our own game fails... if it fails it's because the community was shit"

And that alone speaks volumes about the attitude coming from Nadeo.

sadzealot wrote:And that alone speaks volumes about the attitude coming from Nadeo.

It's the pot calling the kettle black...

TMarc, I don't think you read my post correctly. We do have a 100K Matchmaking server; but the concept of a Matchmaking server does not make any sense in the NA community. We can not get enough players at any given time of day to be in a matchmaking server because there simply are not enough players in NA at that level to use the server. Because there is no incentive to grow the NA community on Nadeo's part, their strategy of planets and matchmaking servers only apply to European players; they simply do not work in NA.

I can go on and on about what Nadeo has not done to support an NA community, which by the way NA has a larger online gaming player base than Europe (that is undeniable) Mexico + USA + Canada = 528 Million people, and most of them have access to the internet. The least they can do to save what REMAINING shootmania players and possibly even GROW the player base is to give us a damn 100K server, THAT THEY DON"T EVEN HAVE TO PAY FOR

it's hilarious how biased Nadeo is towards the NA community, which has a higher potential than the EU community.

This must be done soon, because in a couple of months, Shootmania will BE DEAD in North America, and it's a lose lose situation for Nadeo, and NA players.

t1tan wrote:which by the way NA has a larger online gaming player base than Europe (that is undeniable) Mexico + USA + Canada = 528 Million people, and most of them have access to the internet.

Depending on what do you consider being in Europe, estimations go from 740 to 850 millions people. And one could argue Asia has an even larger potential.

Anyway, I don't really understand if you're asking for servers, which exist, or for more players. Because, if you can't get enough players for the matchkmaking server, then you won't be able to get enough for a single server neither... I'm not saying nothing should be done, only that you're using wrong arguments and solutions.

im even lost in what exactly the question is

t1tan apparently you need to inform a bit more about Maniaplanet, which is not only ShootMania, it is also TrackMania, and there the planets are used a lot already.
The planets apply for everyone using ManiaPlanet games, there is no restriction to countries or continents.
They can be used for ingame purchases like skins, avatars, horns, maps, map packs, titles, and also for tournament registration, donantions to other players or to servers, etc.
Then, the planets are a virtual money for ingame payment system.
The only places where players have to pay real money is 1. purchase of the full game (for a price that is relatively low compared to other games) and 2. rent of servers (that money is not even going to Nadeo / UBisoft since ladder and lobby servers have to be paid with Planets).

Now back to topic:
How can you claim for servers at the same time you are telling there are not enough players?
This is a weird logic in my eyes.
Again, you can't blame Nadeo only because the NA players are apparently not able to organize themselves, even across timezones.
If you find ShootMania a good game, despite it's current issues, then it is also part of your personal duty to promote it and show it your friends.
Given the low entry price for the game and the money free ingame payment system, Nadeo certainly can't give any incentive to promote the game further. According to Hylis (he's da boss) last "general status" message, the situation is good and promising for the future:

Hylis wrote:My focus on this update is really to provide players the ability to make their best into the game, in all their great skills. It could be for sharing thanks to the store, playing thanks to Shootmania gameplay or Trackmania new mode, creation thanks to mixmapping, mods or innovation through scripting etc.

Since it's providing more capacities to the player, it will probably takes time to really see the full power of the next update, even once it's released. But it also mean a long time span of things to discover from other players.

Our goal is to make Maniaplanet, Trackmania & Shootmania to be of top quality, whatever time it takes. We know that many would like it to go faster, but Shootmania is going toward it's first year of release, which is still quite young, compared to the age of the most popular multiplayer FPS series, such as CoD, CS, TF, BF etc.

So you can't say ShootMania will be dead "soon" (although it is there only since a year) only because their marketing is perhaps not as elaborated as other companies. Nadeo is a small company, and has a totally different focus on game marketing. It is a long term project. Ubisoft is supporting Nadeo with this proceeding.
They won't make big ads on Times Square anyways

Now please wait for the update (probably happens next month) which should solve some issues with the Matchmaking system.

In the meantime, you could ask the guys from the SSM team if they would setup one more server in NA, since their servers seem to be very successful.

Or do you have a better suggestion?

There could be a bit of a problem with having dedicated 100k servers. In matchmaking you get a server and when the match is done you go back to the lobby automatically. However, in a dedicated server the same 6 people can just occupy the server and farm LP.