MP Upd#4 WL Discussion: matchmaking kills independent servers

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MP Upd#4 WL Discussion: matchmaking kills independent servers

Post by MrA » 23 Jul 2014, 19:23

Hylis wrote:btw, with are updating the matchmaking to enable battle
Sorry, but as player levels stand, that will just kill independent servers like mine, Search, Franck, (although i cant speak for them), and I can save myself any trouble of making maps, or updating maps, or actually giving much of shit about what is happening with servers at all... it sounds like the worst possible case.

With matchmaking you want to just give all battle to SSM or something?
After how they treated you by shutting their servers down?

Dissapointed! :evil: :evil: :evil:
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Post by Hylis » 23 Jul 2014, 20:00

when I see ubisoft battle server, I am convince that they will go on your server after, to seek new & more diverse maps. it's not against you.

and I still think that the whole work we have done to make easier matchmaking can make it accessible to you or franck. the matchmaking can even be from different hosts, and so to have a lobby that would dispatch on your server or franck one. I think that a match of "battle" can be better if made with matchmaking, and this is why we are helping for you, or smaller amount of players mode to have a "ramp up" service.

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Re: Maniaplanet Update #4 - wishlist

Post by MrA » 23 Jul 2014, 20:06

Hylis wrote:when I see ubisoft battle server, I am convince that they will go on your server after, to seek new & more diverse maps. it's not against you.

and I still think that the whole work we have done to make easier matchmaking can make it accessible to you or franck. the matchmaking can even be from different hosts, and so to have a lobby that would dispatch on your server or franck one. I think that a match of "battle" can be better if made with matchmaking, and this is why we are helping for you, or smaller amount of players mode to have a "ramp up" service.
Its not going to happen, as soon as you make battle matchmaking our servers will die.
Thx

And also.. matchmaking favours the elite hosts (I don't mean the mode).... server hosting is for the few who can do it (also bad but at least I am one of them).... , but how far will we take it, only those who have enough money can do things?

Lets forget socialism in MP.
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Maniaplanet Update #4 - wishlist -tmp2

Post by Hylis » 23 Jul 2014, 20:07

if it's more fun to play with matchmaking, why do you say that there should not be a lobby toward your server (map list etc.?)

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Re: Maniaplanet Update #4 - wishlist

Post by MrA » 23 Jul 2014, 20:14

Do you think we host empty server just for fun? Or in hope of players coming.....

I say I will close my server because it takes resources, and I hope you find someone does good matchmaking instead.
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Re: Maniaplanet Update #4 - wishlist

Post by Hylis » 23 Jul 2014, 20:18

There is probably a misunderstanding, but I would rather play on a MrA lobby than on a MrA server, since I would have more chance to play a real match, with a better balance and a penalty management for players leaving. If you say that it's too difficult to host a lobby or other reasons, then I would be glad to hear it, but if the goal is to have much fun with battle, I think it's better to look for lobbies. And if not, then your stand alone server would be good as well. We are not going to shut down anything.

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Post by Hylis » 23 Jul 2014, 20:24

finding replacement is something useful. But I totally agree with your post killa and I am happy that you quoted well "if it is more fun" I was just saying that to help "autobalance" that MrA was asking to be better thanks to potential warm up phase (and I agree) that we were working on matchmaking tools to make this easier as well.

tmarc, it would be better indeed, but I have to go.

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Re: Maniaplanet Update #4 - wishlist

Post by MrA » 23 Jul 2014, 20:24

I think lobbies have nothing to do with anything.

Players now can host a battle server and have a fair chance of attracting players, especially if they play some themselves.

In a lobby system, this cuts out a load of potential single server owners. You need to have a provider of some kind that lets you configure multiple servers and settings.... It's only for people who understand what they are doing and its why you might as well go and sell your soul to SSM.

Please do not extand matchmaking to where it is not needed.
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Hylis wrote:Tbh, MrA, I think you are overreacting here a bit. Your server will still be visible from the station menu, and I was playing on it recently (please update the maps finally :o, only 2 poles per map)
How long did you play exactly... Few have 2 poles per map, but some do for variety.

AND,... I am not overeacting, once MM makes it to Battle, forget our servers.
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Re: Maniaplanet Update #4 - wishlist

Post by Hylis » 23 Jul 2014, 20:27

I think you under estimate the work we have done to make this more easier to host MrA. You can do matchmaking with simple servers. It was not the case before MP3 and was one of the big work we have done. you have to set one server in lobby and the others as before, and provide the list in the player page for your lobby. I can not say it is "as easy" but knowing you, it's just SO easy :mrgreen:

we have also work to reduce the load of the memory on the lobbies etc. They should be taking no more than normal servers now. And you can simply link 2 servers to a lobby, and thanks to the work we are doing, it will help to go from 2vs2 to 5vs5 automatically. And even rematch ^^

And I don't even think that MM on battle would make your server disappear. More satisfied players means more players, not less. And if you server is cool (And I think it is) then people will be happy to go on it.

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Re: Maniaplanet Update #4 - wishlist

Post by MrA » 23 Jul 2014, 20:28

Fine, show me it 3 months after you make this mistake. :(
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