Interface solution is found already

[Dommy]

Yes, I'm not joking here. My eyes catch blood when I see new "solutions" for interface and repeating wishes from some guyz. Keep the current design but hear us and improve it as you can.

1. U mad?! This is ugly sheet!

Ok, maybe you don't like it as me, but our bad opinions are built upon small details. Yes, I'm also not a fan of actual design but I like the way to access information and layout as it is now. For me layout is now the best since TMO. And only the style of design should be heavily involved.

2. But changing design will fix everything and make it sexy!

Well let's say - when ManiaPlanet 3 was released billions of players left. Not because demo had new rules, but the look of game changed DRASTICALLY. They were not prepared for new look. Check stats at maniaviewer.com if you're not sure. Now players learned current one and keep playing. Imagine now introduction of completely new interface you suggest - dropping the count of players twice again? GG

3. But what about these super awesome orgasmic designs made by community?

First of all - they will be NEVER used. Any hope for you that Nadeo will take your projects, maybe they'll introduce cool features you suggest, but it's their decision. Also I have one question - where the f*** in your designs are stations? The base of whole game? Oops? The title pack system will be there forever and finally understand it please.

4. Domi u idiot, ban incoming for other opinion

Okay, maybe 99.9% of peeps here completely disagree what I said but look - the problem that ui isn't perfect doesn't mean that we have to change it every time from beginning! Improve what do we have the best way we can! Changing interface trillion times don't fix the problem! Maybe new layout made by Nadeo would be even worse than actual.
Wake up.

[Alexey85]

Yea, current interface usability is good, IMO. The design could be better (edit: I mean just styling).

[Dommy]

Yea, current interface usability is good, IMO. The design could be better (edit: I mean just styling).

That's my point.

[novationx]

I completely disagree and it's all just rubbish & bullshit arguments.

A new design wont save the game, duh... but its the first thing the community sees when they launch the game. And believe you me, there is room for improvement.

Players left after MP3.0 because of the bad design. Who said that? You did? Big joke.

I also think that the current design is already way better than before.... and if they worked on it, it could actually be good some day.... but now it's just average at best. So what if others designers show their work? Is that forbidden? Its like ur custom titles... you show them too...

Why didn't u link the design/thread u were talking about? Some of the designs are great, others aren't. The last design in particular is just in alpha/beta and it shows a lot of potential. I just think that you dont like it because its not showing title-support yet and you're a title-creator. Why didn't you just leave a suggestion about ur titles instead of creating this somewhat rude thread

Thread & design can be found here


PS : I agree, if they change it again an again and its bad... then whats the point. But ofcourse we arent asking for a bad design are we ? Duh Its like deliberately not reporting bugs, because NADEO might create more bugs... You see? Bullshit arguments.

[TMarc]

I completely disagree and it's all just rubbish & bullshit arguments.

Only because you disagree, it is not "rubbish" and not "bullshit". This is much too negative, don't you think!?
Please respect others opinion without directly blaming it like that !
Some people do like the actual interface, and it's drawbacks are much less dramatical and less important than you always want the others to beleive.

I know and I understand you are eager to see considerable improvement of the game,
but it is not like this that you will make it advance in the right direction...

[Alexey85]

If to separate layout (meaning major repositioning of controls) and styling, like OP does, and to exlude minor layout issues in some places like sizing, large empty spaces, then

I completely disagree and it's all just rubbish & bullshit arguments.[...]

[...]And believe you me, there is room for improvement.[...]

This is opinion. If you disagree, then it doesn't become rubbish. I agree with domino, that layout is fine. The design is good, but not so much, but again this is an opinion.

[...]Players left after MP3.0 because of the bad design. Who said that? You did? Big joke.[...]

I doubt players left because of new design. Agree with you.

[...]So what if others designers show their work? Is that forbidden? Its like ur custom titles... you show them too...[...]

No, it is not like. Titles are titles, they are not meant to replace each other, just different kinds of fun for different tastes. New designs are meant to replace the current one, and I have yet to see a new suggested design that is clearly an improvement over the current in terms of layout (usability).

[...]I just think that you dont like it because its not showing title-support yet and you're a title-creator.[...]

I have no reason to see why that point couldn't be said by someone not developing any titles at all. It makes perfect sense. If design (only layout) doesn't include title support, then it is useless effort.

[TheBigMiike]

Agree with both (novationx and domino54).

Drops of players isn't the fault of the new design : The new design is better than the old one, we can access easily to the community content, we have news, can access quickly to a server, waiting time to enter in a title pack has been reduced, etc... Nadeo has done a great work and i don't think a player will leave the game just because of the esthetic of a menu.

But i agree with you domino when you said that Nadeo can do a great menu without remade all the main menu. The "ManiaHome" window is quite good, the store is good and don't need to be remade totally... Just change some things : Do some contrasts (blue blue blue blue blue blue everywhere), Improve the handling of the menu, ...

The title pack system will be there forever and finally understand it please.

Off-topic : I like the Title Pack system too but I just reproach the fact that few peoples use Title Pack just for adding one object on their TitlePack.
I think a Title Pack should be created if there is a need to transform the game Ex : TrackMania RPG, Raid. Not for a new gamemode ( New gamemodes => ShootMania Storm).
So i like the actual station system (improved if you think it's needed) but don't want a menu with one station by gamemode.

My eyes catch blood when I see new "solutions" for interface and repeating wishes from some guyz

I like the xrayjay's work but i don't think his menu is adapted to the ManiaPlanet menu. It looks like a social network, not ManiaPlanet. (and i hate flat design. Nowadays we can see flat design everywhere!! )

Just my opinion

[Dommy]

I didn't say I don't like community made interfaces, theyre sick But it's enough for now.

Also in my opinion lack of players is done by change of layout.

[dovahk1n]

And why not being able to change the interface like we change crosshairs. Nadeo/Community is for sure able to design different custom interfaces and it will be great to win it in cups or to buy it with planets in the store. ANd in this way, some people will use the default interface, and some others a custom interface (again, a custom one won in a cup or with a streamer or bought with planets...).
Am I a genius ? Yes.

[novationx]

u make it sound ez dovakin :p, but its not
1 beautiful interface is all we need imo. Ofc ur idea could be fun, but it would be so much work oO