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i recently noticed i never seen the canyon car or the valley car on stadium and that it's not possible to make environment mixing with the stadium environment, whats up with that? the very few maps on mania exchange that tries envi mix with stadium uses the stadium car when the map is loaded.

Unfortunately, you can't create envimix stadium maps, it's Nadeo locked.

but why? it makes no sense

Nobody noses.

Sure we know. Stadium is not a full title like Canyon and Valley, it was more or less only a port with a few new blocks, hence not all possibilities are intened there. Less price, less features.
Besides this, Canyon and Valley car physics do not allow driving on Stadium.
This was explained somehow like that a longer while ago by Nadeo.

Of course it looks like a silly limitation as well, but I don't think they will change it soon.

TMarc wrote:Besides this, Canyon and Valley car physics do not allow driving on Stadium.
This was explained somehow like that a longer while ago by Nadeo.

Of course they are, but Nadeo [...]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w81FwEYyqmI

It was/is even possible to drive with any other car in ShootMania Storm btw. but hey^^

kripkee wrote:It was/is even possible to drive with any other car in ShootMania Storm btw. but hey^^

It's a bug. It was not intended by default.

How did you manage to put the Canyon car on this track btw?

Nerpson wrote:

kripkee wrote:It was/is even possible to drive with any other car in ShootMania Storm btw. but hey^^

It's a bug. It was not intended by default.

How did you manage to put the Canyon car on this track btw?

open map in canyon title (but you must have loaded storm title).
but in ManiaPlanet 3.1 up is not possible

TMarc wrote:Sure we know. Stadium is not a full title like Canyon and Valley, it was more or less only a port with a few new blocks, hence not all possibilities are intened there. Less price, less features.
Besides this, Canyon and Valley car physics do not allow driving on Stadium.
This was explained somehow like that a longer while ago by Nadeo.

Of course it looks like a silly limitation as well, but I don't think they will change it soon.

It was more like also you have to create map specifically though for a Canyon or Valley car in Stadium (due to the physic) which is not particularly the case the other way.

TMarc wrote:Sure we know. Stadium is not a full title like Canyon and Valley, it was more or less only a port with a few new blocks, hence not all possibilities are intened there. Less price, less features.
Besides this, Canyon and Valley car physics do not allow driving on Stadium.
This was explained somehow like that a longer while ago by Nadeo.

Of course it looks like a silly limitation as well, but I don't think they will change it soon.

nothing but excuses, the posts above said everything so i won't even bother. hopefully Nadeo redeem themselves with Turbo, actually hopefully Turbo will have any environment mixing at all seeing how it took 3 games for Nadeo to realize that environment mixing was a good idea in game about making tracks.