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Re: Devs watch this video to understand why your games suck

Post by nailbomb69 » 19 Jul 2013, 22:26

I like TM games. But my brothers don't so I'll have to stop playing because they don't like it

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Re: Devs watch this video to understand why your games suck

Post by Insomnia » 20 Jul 2013, 09:56

The moment he showed he was playing Valley with a Stadium car and therefore outed as a Stadium fankid and not seriously interested in other environments, I turned off the video.
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Re: Devs watch this video to understand why your games suck

Post by eie » 21 Jul 2013, 22:33

Maniaplanet sucks.

1. Open launcher
2. Click Play
3. Select profile
4. Choose title (You'll probably also have to click-and-drag)
5. Click Multiplayer
6. Click Browse servers
7. Click Up to World
8. Select server
9. Click join

Nine clicks to play. That's too much, and some (like the 6th) is unnecessary and limits your gameplay (the 4th). There is no doubt maniaplanet should be simplified, because it makes it a hassle just to play, because it could easily be simpler:

1. Open launcher (Are launchers necessary?)
2. Click Play
Automatically connect to profile.
3. Select TM/SM/QM/Options (given that the profile is shared between the games, why would you want a profile button on each title)
4. Click Multiplayer, server list should be generated based on owned games and selected options (allow objects, etc)
5. Click Join server (no need for two steps here)

Also the maniaplanet is just awfully designed. It looks kinda cool, but it's just so impractical, kinda like Windows 8 start screen. It should be static, not with any scrolling. Nadeo should just stop splitting the community with all the titles too.

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Re: Devs watch this video to understand why your games suck

Post by TMarc » 21 Jul 2013, 23:13

lol :lol:
How many mouse clicks do you do while playing? (Ok, if you're not just driving TrackMania only)
Then 4 more or less are really irrelevant. ;)

Indeed it would be nice if you could place a shortcut to a manialink to your favorite server on the desktop,
so double click, plus one click for login could be enough, this would make only 3 clicks! :thumbsup:

Or have 2 more clicks for a favorite server selection right at the beginning - but this would only work after you have connected.
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Re: Devs watch this video to understand why your games suck

Post by w1lla » 22 Jul 2013, 08:42

Make a batch to quickjoin a server within a title:

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ManiaPlanet.exe /login=xxx /password=xxx /qjoin=serverlogin@Title /silent
Where @Title = SMStorm, TMCanyon, TMStadium etc.
/login = user login
/password = user password

This will start the client silently.

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Re: Devs watch this video to understand why your games suck

Post by jonthekiller » 22 Jul 2013, 08:50

You can connect automatically to a profile (Launcher/Configure/Profile = Use Single Profile).

If you make a shortcut of the ManiaPlanet.exe, you can launch directly the game without go to the Launcher.

A shortcut to launch directly a title is in the Nadeo todolist but we don't know when it will be available.
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Re: Devs watch this video to understand why your games suck

Post by eie » 22 Jul 2013, 17:45

jonthekiller wrote:You can connect automatically to a profile (Launcher/Configure/Profile = Use Single Profile).
I knew this was probably possible, but the option is partially hidden. Anyways, down to eights clicks :thumbsup:
w1lla wrote:Make a batch to quickjoin a server within a title:
(...)
What if I want to open the server list of all servers (world, not continent), would that be possible?

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This will help me play in less clicks, but we still have some fundamental flaws with maniaplanet. It looks just like the start screen for windows 8, and I have never (ever) heard anyone say anything positive about that start screen. In my opinion the start screen should look somewhat similar to TMN ESWC, a classic, clean design, without the silly sideways scrolling. Image

And why is the profile menu and news/notifications available in every title, when they will display the same information in each one of them? Shouldn't they be available from the titles menu instead?

Why can't all servers be listed on the same list, regardless of what title they exist within? Kinda like in TMUF where all servers are in one list (even if they were in a specific environment). This is a downgrade from TMUF even...

Why is there no option to disable news/notifications? (It looks cluttered with them imho, and it's worse than in TMUF)

Why doesn't servers (or at least rankings, like in TMN/UF) automatically show up when I click Multiplayer?

And why is there no quick-join button on servers?

(I'm just asking these questions in case somebody has a solution to my problems ^^ Please tell me someone has a solution :P)
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Re: Devs watch this video to understand why your games suck

Post by Hubby » 22 Jul 2013, 19:13

For newcomers (especially) this whole maniaplanet thing is just too cumbersome.
It's a nice concept but it just doesn't work well enough , United felt more 'natural' to navigate IMO.
It's not the games that suck , it's the 'interface' to launch the games that needs a revision I think.

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