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Nym
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Re: Airbreak

Post by Nym » 23 Aug 2011, 09:52

EnaiSiaion wrote:It may have been removed because it was the #1 cause of landing bugs. Landing perfectly flat on your wheels would cause you to get snagged and lose speed.
Good point, but one could say: this is avoidable if u break a little bit later and tadaa.
_Junky wrote: The problem with changing the gameplay when your game is so close to release is that if you change one little thing it might affect the balance of the whole game. For example if you add air control it might make some tracks much easier to complete, so they'd have to recheck every single map of the Solo mode and recreate the ones that are made easier (same for the hundreds of multiplayer maps that have already been created by users).
Also they'd need to spend many hours with players in order to determine the right amount of air control, and honestly it's too late for that.
Seriously: when tracks get that much easier with air control there would need to be some really nasty jumps in it and this track isn't the best anyway.

Also as far as i know there's not yet a release date; so I wouldn't mind 4 more weeks to get airbreak and this controler thing i mentioned in the beta feedbacks forum...
If you wanna play u can preorder (nadeo gets the money anyway) and the others get a better game.

In the end some act of desperation:
PLEASSEEE NADEO these two features will highly improve the game!
Do we need to start an online petition to proove the support of the community? ;)

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Re: Airbreak

Post by d.m.f._nl_ » 23 Aug 2011, 10:03

Nym wrote:
EnaiSiaion wrote:It may have been removed because it was the #1 cause of landing bugs. Landing perfectly flat on your wheels would cause you to get snagged and lose speed.
Good point, but one could say: this is avoidable if u break a little bit later and tadaa.
_Junky wrote: The problem with changing the gameplay when your game is so close to release is that if you change one little thing it might affect the balance of the whole game. For example if you add air control it might make some tracks much easier to complete, so they'd have to recheck every single map of the Solo mode and recreate the ones that are made easier (same for the hundreds of multiplayer maps that have already been created by users).
Also they'd need to spend many hours with players in order to determine the right amount of air control, and honestly it's too late for that.
Seriously: when tracks get that much easier with air control there would need to be some really nasty jumps in it and this track isn't the best anyway.

Also as far as i know there's not yet a release date; so I wouldn't mind 4 more weeks to get airbreak and this controler thing i mentioned in the beta feedbacks forum...
If you wanna play u can preorder (nadeo gets the money anyway) and the others get a better game.

In the end some act of desperation:
PLEASSEEE NADEO these two features will highly improve the game!
Do we need to start an online petition to proove the support of the community? ;)

I agree wit this member :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :pil :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:
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Re: Airbreak

Post by aXu » 23 Aug 2011, 12:53

Nym wrote:Also as far as i know there's not yet a release date; so I wouldn't mind 4 more weeks to get airbreak and this controler thing i mentioned in the beta feedbacks forum...
If you wanna play u can preorder (nadeo gets the money anyway) and the others get a better game.
Umm, are you sure Nadeo gets the profits from selling. If I understand anything about game industry, Ubi gets the money and Ubi pays Nadeo crew their salaries.

Have you guys played ExciteTruck for wii? I think there was fair aircontrol, and I was kinda expecting Nadeo to go little more that way. More freedom of control, more places to improve skills.
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Re: Airbreak

Post by Maystorm » 23 Aug 2011, 18:15

EnaiSiaion wrote:It may have been removed because it was the #1 cause of landing bugs. Landing perfectly flat on your wheels would cause you to get snagged and lose speed.
Well, the solution to this is to eliminate those bugs and not to remove a feature instead... :o

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Re: Airbreak

Post by Trackmaniack » 23 Aug 2011, 18:26

Maystorm wrote:
EnaiSiaion wrote:It may have been removed because it was the #1 cause of landing bugs. Landing perfectly flat on your wheels would cause you to get snagged and lose speed.
Well, the solution to this is to eliminate those bugs and not to remove a feature instead... :o
FFS. It's not a bug! :teub: For Christ's sake. If you land perfectly flat in Stadium, the chassis clips with the track and wigs out. The simple solution? Don't land -perfectly- flat. You can still land nose-high and not lose any speed. Further, they removed the airbrake to give a new challenge. This isn't just a big middle finger from Nadeo, they're not trying to owned you over because they can, they're trying to add different types of features. Did you notice in the original TM, was there an airbrake? Nope. In real cars, is there an airbrake? Nope. See where I'm going with this? There have been non-airbrakes before there was an airbrake. Yeesh.
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Re: Airbreak

Post by mfg-bigal » 23 Aug 2011, 20:25

I would love to have airbrake! It is a part of Trackmania! :thumbsup:

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Re: Airbreak

Post by aXu » 23 Aug 2011, 21:12

Hmm, can I ask how many here realizes canyon actually has this function? It's just slower (again, skill is involved, and it just looks better than instant rotation stop).
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Re: Airbreak

Post by d.m.f._nl_ » 24 Aug 2011, 11:55

Trackmaniack wrote:
Maystorm wrote:
EnaiSiaion wrote:It may have been removed because it was the #1 cause of landing bugs. Landing perfectly flat on your wheels would cause you to get snagged and lose speed.
Well, the solution to this is to eliminate those bugs and not to remove a feature instead... :o
FFS. It's not a bug! :teub: For Christ's sake. If you land perfectly flat in Stadium, the chassis clips with the track and wigs out. The simple solution? Don't land -perfectly- flat. You can still land nose-high and not lose any speed. Further, they removed the airbrake to give a new challenge. This isn't just a big middle finger from Nadeo, they're not trying to owned you over because they can, they're trying to add different types of features. Did you notice in the original TM, was there an airbrake? Nope. In real cars, is there an airbrake? Nope. See where I'm going with this? There have been non-airbrakes before there was an airbrake. Yeesh.

Dont be so angry :)

The have us hooked on airbrake so whe want it back.
And no whe dont played any silly game on the Wii, whe played TM, whe dont care about other games, because if whe wanna play other games whe bought that instead of TM.
Do you see where i am going with this :) :pil :pil :pil
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Re: Airbreak

Post by Nym » 24 Aug 2011, 12:11

d.m.f._nl_ wrote: And no whe dont played any silly game on the Wii, whe played TM, whe dont care about other games, because if whe wanna play other games whe bought that instead of TM.
I totally agree!
Thats one reason that makes tm so great:

It's different from other games; please don't make it an off-the-shelf game

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Re: Airbreak

Post by _Junky » 24 Aug 2011, 12:15

Nym wrote:
d.m.f._nl_ wrote: And no whe dont played any silly game on the Wii, whe played TM, whe dont care about other games, because if whe wanna play other games whe bought that instead of TM.
I totally agree!
eerrr... I'm pretty sure he was being sarcastic ^^:
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