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Arrob
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Jumping

Post by Arrob »

Hey, from playing other games (like Tribes or Quake), which have a quite similar mechanic with slow moving projectiles i found out that there is also a reason to jump. Either to get speed (strafe-/diskjump), escape, reach certain places or to evade explosive ground atacks (rocket/spinfusor). Here the jump is pretty useless, atleast as long there is a enemy somwhere arround you which is usually the case. If you jump youre a easy target, thats the drawback this and the other games have in common. its just that here is no real advantage of jumping in a fight (i know about "sprint" here of course hich requires jump first, but that doesnt change the fact that its not practical in a fight). this results in players randomly moving orthogonally to the opposites aiming direction and randomly shooting theirselves and hoping for a hit. atleast i feel its like this most of the time. best seen at royal with maximum off zone btw, but i think you know what im talking about. imho its also much more satisfying if you hit a target in the air from a strange angle, than a close combat hit on ground. There needs to be a reason to jump. I dont have a suggestion how to fix it yet, just want to know how you feel about it.
Goden.ca
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Re: Jumping

Post by Goden.ca »

Yeah, jumping in this game is pretty much a huge "shoot me!" move. If you're playing insta-gib melee, then jumping is pretty much the equivalent to the suicide key. It is monumentally easy to shoot jumping targets. For a moment there I almost considered unbinding my jump key because it was getting me killed so often.
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nyquist
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Re: Jumping

Post by nyquist »

Goden.ca wrote:Yeah, jumping in this game is pretty much a huge "shoot me!" move. If you're playing insta-gib melee, then jumping is pretty much the equivalent to the suicide key. It is monumentally easy to shoot jumping targets. For a moment there I almost considered unbinding my jump key because it was getting me killed so often.
And thats exactly what differentiate noobs from better players.
Goden.ca
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Re: Jumping

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nyquist wrote:
And thats exactly what differentiate noobs from better players.
Thank you for this insightful and informative post.
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Re: Jumping

Post by Omnixor »

he's right imho. just learn how and when to use the jump. it's not that game should be more "easy" for you to get used after playing other games, it's YOU who should get used to its particular and special things.
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Arrob
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Re: Jumping

Post by Arrob »

I enjoyed getting used to other mechanics. but i dont like getting used to random movements and random shooting on the ground. i would like duels beiing more based on skill than on the random thing right now. sometimes you kill, sometimes you get kill, but you dont feel any difference, just doing the same stupid thing all the time. the skill is really left behind here. i hoped to find people in this game who share my opinion a bit, if you look at this thousands of gimpy rpg shooters with levels, classes, luck, paytowin. this game has nothing, which i highly appreciate, but the close combat definitly needs rework from my point of view.
redding
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Joined: 05 Jul 2012, 01:13

Re: Jumping

Post by redding »

As you said jumping makes it faster for you to die vs rockets, so I think jumping should be used as more of a movement tool rather then dodging.

Because of this I suggest that the momentum you carry after sprinting into jumping should be increased so its slightly more similar Q3
then00b
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Re: Jumping

Post by then00b »

I would like to see jumping bring with it more momentum like in Quake 3. As it stands, it's like what everyone else is saying, jumping just means you're basically dead.
kalstrams
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Re: Jumping

Post by kalstrams »

Jumping sometimes saves you, but not in a rail fights.
Deaod
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Re: Jumping

Post by Deaod »

Two things about jumping i would like to see changed:

1.) Give players greater aircontrol
2.) Remove the slight downward adjustment of your aim when jumping.
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