My playsession constructive critisism - heed it or fail.

[Pschoolofold]

And you don't see that you have condammed it in advance without giving it a real chance

Condemned? What are you talking about? Did you even bother to read my posts without some thin skin big ego goggles? I was very clear in what I found the problems to be and how to fix them, how much more constructive neutral feedback do you want?

Nadeo never claimed it would be a "perfect" FPS, and what is "perfect" after all.
If you are looking for something like a CS or Quake or Doom clone, you are totally wrong, because SM is a totally different style of game. Try it and then tell what you think. But only from some ads, screenshots and ingame videos you can't really judge.

Again showing you haven't even read my feedback, there was no mention of some "perfect" fps, no mention of wanting it like any other game, but I did mention I'm playing it and told you what I think. I mentioned the glaring problems specific to SHOOTMANIA in a non confrontational yet straightforward way.

It was the same with TrackMania: many people complain about missing realism etc., but it has created its own style.
Love it or hate it.

Not once did I mention anything about realism or style.

Nadeo/Ubisoft/ aka Shootmania's problems are poor performance, poor interface, and a constant "THIS GAME IS SO PRO" on every single news PR you throw out there. All, as you mentioned, behind a BETA.You guys are acting like there's some gigantic throng of PRO players winning all these top shootmania tournaments, PROS needing maps, etc. Have a look at your news on http://www.shootmania.com/ once in awhile. I've been and I'm telling you it's embarrassing for you guys when you have all these issues, don't listen to solid feedback, and act like shootmania is the KING of PRO FPS -- few people will want to associate with that kinda misleading garbage, pro or not.

I am not against people who have complaints, issues etc. but who also have constructive things to say, and who are willing to give directions on how to improve the game.

If you really hate it, and are not even ready to help to improve it, then please go away, this is very simple.

If you cannot discern constructive feedback, maybe it is you who should go away. I mentioned quite clearly you guys aren't listening to us few who are blatently honest, non confrontational, neutral and DO give good feedback.

And it's your kind of replies TMarc that prove it. You obviously got nothing out of my feedback and decided to attack because of your bruised ego. I've been honest and helpful and you've been hostile.

[eka]

[*]PLEASE get rid of the horns! A few rather annoying players have ruined this.

You can choose to allow horns or not to.

[TMarc]

And it's your kind of replies TMarc that prove it. You obviously got nothing out of my feedback and decided to attack because of your bruised ego. I've been honest and helpful and you've been hostile.

My ego doesn't have anything to do here, it is totally out of this.

You should read your own posts yourself very carefully before posting, and please stop harassing me and the others for nothing!

Yeah, you found a problem with ShootMania in general, very fair and very constructive, haha.

Again, it is still in Beta phase, and it is not post like yours which will make it really better.
Nevertheless you can't expect that exactly only your points will be taken into account.
If you would invest a minimum of time to see what's really going on here,
you would have seen and accepted that many things are ongoing.
Some are not good, agreed, some are good.
But after all we have to be patient. ok!?

[g1ock.0ut]

I think people are just butt hurt that you said "heed it or fail"

You made some good points though and I agree with you on some of them.

People just never gave your post an objective read because you used that line, which suggests that you know more than they do, and since it is phrased in a pessimistic manner (heed it or fail is an ultimatum, and that is never optimistic) people assume that you're talking shit about the game.

But I've been on many message boards and seen many sensible, objective, and neutral threads die while flame wars can rage on for years. People have no respect for ideas, they only care about something if they are insulted or can insult someone.

In short, good on you for making a thread title to grab people's attention. Hopefully Nadeo will incorporate some of your (and the rest of the communities) ideas before they release the game.

[AwesomeFart]

this thread is just flame now... cmn close this and let dev look at important things in it...when they have time for it or this thread will lost its purpose....

some things have point like
-real low details
- framerate
- join lags and lags


but some just dont, they are so cosmetic, its sounds like youre just want to remake shootmania to your favourite game...

[hunahpu.rq]

its sounds like youre just want to remake shootmania to your favourite game...

Or maybe some people want to make it their favorite game?

I'm fed up with this community, people are just not respecting each other.

bye bye shootmania!

[whynotsimple]

Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

[Firerizer]

First of all... My respects to you all, pro and con, alike.
I appreciate the various views for the participants in this thread.
I, like alot of you, am actually, searching for my perfect game.
I have a gaming history that spans from typing listings from Compute magazine, the Doom series, Quake series and Tribes series, etc...
I am presently, knee deep in betas with Tribes:Ascend (should still be in beta), Planetside2 and Firefall.
Shootmania, looks to have potential, but, like the other betas, sometimes the developers appear to have their own vision of their game, and become narrow sighted.
My initial concern is how does it presently play on NA west coast servers (if any?)?.
And the overall gameplay of the present state of this beta?
I am reluctant to spend money at this time, if there is more problems that it is worth.
I keep visiting and watching from time to time, I get really interested, and also, really deflated...
I think the overall potential is here, and it is always a nice plus when the developers look closely at the comments and suggestions from those who are searching for :A favorite game of choice: to support and enjoy.
I hope things fall into place nicely?

[JayTac]

"we have too many options"

I wish that was actually true.