A down flaw of this community, pretty important!

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dawoud80
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Re: A down flaw of this community, pretty important!

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hi ! i would like to know how to report a player who says racism discussions ? for ban this player.

I have read here a person says : "what can we do"

The answer is easy : report and ban by community managers.

I come from the iRacing community. they save all the chat logs, if you report such talks, giving them the session ID and player name, the player will be ban for many times. And this game is works only online, and by periodic subscription !

One time i have reported a player for racism, ban ! this player be back after 6 month. when you pay and your are ban for this, 2 solution : never come back to this game or back and never speak racism again.

this can be to the disadvantage of iRacing and their money... but it's their choice to keep good and serious players.

how works maniaplanet about this problems and how to report please ?

thank you and sorry for my english level... i m from France.
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Re: A down flaw of this community, pretty important!

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I guess the best you can do is get them banned from that server if votebans are enabled. Click their name on the list, and select "callvote ban". I don't think you'd have a lot of trouble getting the majority of online players to vote "yes" to banning a racist.
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Re: A down flaw of this community, pretty important!

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Ok thank you.

i was hope for something more severe, but thank you, it's a thing to do during the game.
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Re: A down flaw of this community, pretty important!

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Well about 4 days ago a guy from "Other Countries" called S17 or so called me and my friend Jews and said something like: "Too bad Hitler didn't finish the job". I pressed report and gave a reason, and it kinda bums me out that to get better treatment in the game, I have to put a different country.
If Nadeo's watching this, I would really like you to send a PM on Maniaplanet saying if an action towards a guy I have reported was performed.
I know, a huge part of these guys are Muslims but usually if I meet one, I'm not judging him as long as his ideology is not killing people and just embracing them (guys who wish death to the innocent should be outcasted). The media is just full of lies about what Israel's doing (and I know pretty good what we're doing), so I think that's one of the causes...

Anyway, I do have a request from the community: don't try to "charge" against the haters, just try to reveal the truth. Syria is really unstable now and the people are getting slaughtered by the dictator-"their Muslim brothers" don't even look at their direction. Yet, Israel does help the poor guys and gives them medical care. The media doesn't show that because the haters will say it's a lie.
Just show them the truth and they will realize it's the problem of the other countries using the country who's not willing to attack to conflict the hatred towards it instead to the government (ffs get democracy mid east).

PS: All of the pictures of people suffering is from Syria, Israel NEVER attacks civilians.
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Re: A down flaw of this community, pretty important!

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I saw racism against a French dude also a few days ago, and he used the report function. Does that even work? It's been in Trackmania since the dawn of time, but I never saw it work.

The best thing to do is screenshot rascism and post it here so the community can see who the offender is, and if he is in a "esport" team they will surely kick him.

Unfortunately this is FPS, and that means a whole lot of retards :roll:
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Re: A down flaw of this community, pretty important!

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Acesii wrote: I know, a huge part of these guys are Muslims but usually if I meet one, I'm not judging him as long as his ideology is not killing people and just embracing them (guys who wish death to the innocent should be outcasted). The media is just full of lies about what Israel's doing (and I know pretty good what we're doing),....

Oh please stop this kind of bulshit (crybaby)... ( my message is not agressive) i have a poor english level so i hope you understand.

i'm muslim from France. For sure I am shocked by such behavior against israel people. it's clear that i don't like the Israeli policy, but if i see racism against an israelian player i will report too. Racism is unacceptable, it's a cancer.
the main part of muslim peoples educated with religion aren't racist. they dont like Israel OK, but that's all. they're not racist. Don't forget this Acessii. Thank you.

i play with French flag because i'm french and from France. i have received an insult : "baguette". well... a joke maybe... i don't think so... well it's nothing important. But a guy got the Algerian flag, and he received disgusting insults (death for muslims, etc etc,) unacceptable.
a Canadian guy ask for the poor number of real french white people and i answer, an precised that i was a with french muslim etc etc... a religion had no color etc...
Bing ! racist insults against me !

And what i see i a racism from europeen white people. not war muslim<-> jews like you have said "Acessii".

i think due to a poor education lelvel, so poor intelligence level. A racist has always a poor intelligence level and a poor level of culture. this is what makes/build Europe today... When i was young, racism was a shame. And now Europe let growing racism like a respectable point of view !

No ! a racist has no point of view ! And that's why it's easier for him to say " i'm racist"

well this kind of racism that i see reported here against jews or what i see in game against against muslim is unacceptable !!! i hope maniaplanet to be uncompromising on this subject.
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A screenshot without the perpetrator's login means little; using a fake nickname is trivial. Get the login.
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dawoud80 wrote:Oh please stop this kind of bulshit (crybaby)...
For this your English is good enough, hmm? ;)

It is good you are against any kind of racism, but you should also be more tolerant towards other players here as well, and do not start attacking or insulting others yourself :roll:
You might not see it like this, but others might possibly also be offended by your words.

Please generally avoid discussions about racism, religion and politics in this forum, since this is always a endless debate that leads to nowhere, especially when there are contrary or more radical and stubborn points of view.

So please calm down, it doesn't help at all to be upset and to rage artificially :thx:

Although it is a sad thing, the anonymity eases a lot such ugly behavior.
Those people are against everyone in their way, they only try to make others feel bad and offended, but it is only a silly joke for them.
You can call it idiotic, but as soon as you react, they win their dumb psycho games.
The best is to ignore them completely and to not react at all on their insults, because you can't change them.

If you have serious complaints about specific players, please use at least a screenshot, best with the player's login name, and post them in the appropriate forum, or adress PM directly to the community managers Aliona and Cerovan.
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Re: A down flaw of this community, pretty important!

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dawoud80 wrote:
Acesii wrote: I know, a huge part of these guys are Muslims but usually if I meet one, I'm not judging him as long as his ideology is not killing people and just embracing them (guys who wish death to the innocent should be outcasted). The media is just full of lies about what Israel's doing (and I know pretty good what we're doing),....

Oh please stop this kind of bulshit (crybaby)... ( my message is not agressive) i have a poor english level so i hope you understand.

i'm muslim from France. For sure I am shocked by such behavior against israel people. it's clear that i don't like the Israeli policy, but if i see racism against an israelian player i will report too. Racism is unacceptable, it's a cancer.
the main part of muslim peoples educated with religion aren't racist. they dont like Israel OK, but that's all. they're not racist. Don't forget this Acessii. Thank you.

i play with French flag because i'm french and from France. i have received an insult : "baguette". well... a joke maybe... i don't think so... well it's nothing important. But a guy got the Algerian flag, and he received disgusting insults (death for muslims, etc etc,) unacceptable.
a Canadian guy ask for the poor number of real french white people and i answer, an precised that i was a with french muslim etc etc... a religion had no color etc...
Bing ! racist insults against me !

And what i see i a racism from europeen white people. not war muslim<-> jews like you have said "Acessii".

i think due to a poor education lelvel, so poor intelligence level. A racist has always a poor intelligence level and a poor level of culture. this is what makes/build Europe today... When i was young, racism was a shame. And now Europe let growing racism like a respectable point of view !

No ! a racist has no point of view ! And that's why it's easier for him to say " i'm racist"

well this kind of racism that i see reported here against jews or what i see in game against against muslim is unacceptable !!! i hope maniaplanet to be uncompromising on this subject.

I know the entire story but if you have to disagree about what I was saying (hating each other isn't worth the calories )(read carefully what I was saying, I didn't blame the Muslims) there's no point of telling it to you. Besides, you live in France, how the heck do you know what's happening here? MEDIA

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TMarc, I'm not coming to confront any of them, I know the truth and I wanna share it, it's not Israel fault and it's not their fault
dawoud80
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Re: A down flaw of this community, pretty important!

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TMarc wrote:
dawoud80 wrote:Oh please stop this kind of bulshit (crybaby)...
For this your English is good enough, hmm? ;)

It is good you are against any kind of racism, but you should also be more tolerant towards other players here as well, and do not start attacking or insulting others yourself :roll:
You might not see it like this, but others might possibly also be offended by your words.
hi,
that's why i was asking for understanding; because i don't know the level of vulgarity or aggressiveness of different words like that, sort of words that we don't learn at school lol.

What i would like to say by "bulshit, crybaby", is that "muslim against jews" is a cliché ( i hope you know this word ). in Palestine/israel ok it's a special thing, but in the game and all the others countries jews and muslim leaves together in peace. And when Acesii saying " I know, a huge part of these guys are Muslims " i would like to moderate and precised in order to not make grew up bad ideas on/about muslim people.
i hope now you understand why i would like to precise.
But i know Acesii when you are from palestine or israel you are in the conflict and you feel thing different that what we leave in europe. In europe the problem is the return of an "europeen hitler racism" mixed with a degenerate nationalism..., and i would like to find here a real solution to easy ban this players, beacuse this is this kind of racism that i see in the game.

My apologize Acesii if you find my agressive. i wasn't the goal and i you need my help to report a 2nd time a player, i will be here.
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