Trackmania 2 stadium wont be free?

[hackie]

If you are new to this game do not expect you be a pro in one day

But I know what you mean, I hate that tracks too.

I would say save youre planets and build youre own server.

Maybe you can search for servers where a lot of people drive , mostly that's the place to be.

[zarexz]

Oh and maybe we shouldn't forget, the tracks that were here in an instance are tracks people have been driving on for many years now. Indeed don't expect to master them at day one

[BLiNNeMaNS]

i've been fighting against transition based full speed tracks since they appeared without any luck.
To me it sounds weird to make landings smooth for pros by placing reverse ramps while they have the skill and know how to airbrake. Especially if that means beginners and intermediate drivers can't finish as they crash into them.

let's take it back to the oldschool ^^

[rat_in_car]

There are thousand of maps but people still plays on few percent of them again and again. That is main problem - the beauty in TM is to play various maps. I don't think you want to buy game that has a slogan: "drive on the same maps thousand times and repeat them forever". Well... maybe it's not maps problem. Maybe community is not that great as you see it.

And about main problem in this topic... I still think that you're trying to find an explanation why old game is sell as new. :) The main problem is that Nadeo has large database of potential customers and think that few percent of them can buy Stadium. Well, if that is so simply, then why is so many Nations servers and not enough United ones? Why most of Nations players never bought United?

[Enryx.xZ]

Well tl;dr the whole thread (except page 1 ^^)

Just sharing my thoughts:

So yeah as of now I'm going on with the free version of open beta.
To me it seems reasonable that this will be kept active but with limitations...
Just TimeAttack? Fine. Maybe this will keep away free users from top of ladder if it's again roundmode based which seems reasonable (except this first days of dirty LP business I will stop caring of any TM2 rank ).
No complete solo campaign? Well Idc of solo campaign

But I want to say, I dont really see a point of paying for another stadium after paying TMUF.
New blocks? When I'll see them...
Graphics? So I should pay to get the same thing with more graphics... Aswell they dropped my fps to "barely-playable" (talking of serious maps, 15 fp/s is not enough smooth)

Other than this tell me what's new?? Oh yeah there are new bug-landings on platforms

It's not that I want everything for free, as I have full accounts for TMF and Canyon, but this time...Just no point.

Peace

[Chaz0r]

In my opinion there is no problem with buy TM2 Stadium for a small price.
But at the moment this isn't really TM2 Stadium. It's in nearly every point the same version of TMNF. And thats free!

I don't know what they planned to add on the way to release, but there have to be more things which makes it TM2 Stadium and NOT another version of TMNF.
If there will be things which makes it a real part of Trackmania 2, then I will buy it definitly. But if it's nothing more or less than another version of TMNF, I won't buy it and play TMNF instead.

[Omnixor]

This is what you get for 10€:

• a complete new solo campaign
• new blocks
• improvements on GFX
• usage of map editor
• Acces to all functions of ManiaPlanet for Stadium (Team/Competition Manager, ManiaScript, Title Packs, custom 3D objects, etc...)
• No freezone

[rat_in_car]

Yep, solo campaign that contains new maps... Sad that is not other way to get new maps. Should be special website that people upload their own maps and other players download them and play. But, because it's not possible, solo campaign is so important. :)

Improvement on GFX - we already confirm that there is no new gfx, maybe one or two files with grass or dirt. 95% of mail gfx files are the same.

[kamyl]

Why have you decided to quote that list for the 3rd time?

Well all right, let me comment on these points:

a complete new solo campaign

Why would you pay for some basic maps, if you can download them (and millions more) from TMX? Or do you pay for access to single player rankings?

new blocks

Oh yeah? Where? And even if they appear eventually, couple of blocks are not worth paying 10€! Seriously... There was many free DLCs for games that contain much, much more and was free. Even "Forever" for TMU added more blocks (not only for stadium, but for 7 entire environments) and was free.

improvements on GFX

That has been already discussed.

usage of map editor

How generous! We get track editor in TrackMania game. I am truly shocked!

Acces to all functions of ManiaPlanet for Stadium (Team/Competition Manager, ManiaScript, Title Packs, custom 3D objects, etc...)

Which is something you all paid already buying Canyon.

No freezone

No comment...

[rat_in_car]

In normal market, customers want to pay as less as possible and producers/sellers want to get as much money as possible - that is NORMAL situation. But as I see, here we have completely crazy market where players (customers) want to pay more and even defend producers, who don't even want to explain anything to players (in fact - they don't must as long as customers are worshipers). This is crazy guys, you as customers should be more skeptical.