Why removing new cam 2 instead of SIMPLY KEEPING BOTH?

Post by **Rasque** » 08 May 2013, 02:23

Easy way to lose 90% of fs players. And it had already started.
No fs in tm2 - they hate cambug
No fs in tmnf - they prolly trying tm2

No fs at all: community is divided/lost/been waiting for a fixed cam since 2 months. And we (league admins) are flamed why we stick to TMNF when it comes to big competitions. Thats why.
Summer is too close and then everyone will leave the game for other reasons. Its time for the big boom before that happens!

spoons · Post by **spoons** » 09 May 2013, 02:48

I liked the new cam2 and was really getting use to it. I had no complaints about it.

I also have been avoiding an optional update until today which reverted it back to the old tmnf cam2.

Is there a way to revert it back?
Is there going to be an update to add the cam2 that was in the whole beta of stadium 2?

spoons · Post by **spoons** » 09 May 2013, 03:34

TMarc wrote:Yes, Fix was very very polite. Thanks for editing, niklas.

Soon people will ask for a free positionable camera that always relatively stays at the same place, with or without situation depending modifications, hmm?

It is already a luxury that there are 3 different cameras.
Real drivers only have one view, and even this is very restricted due to the helmet and the crash protection in case of closed cars.

The old real drivers argument : D

Real drivers dont speed drift to gain speed
Real drivers dont drive corkscrew loops
Real drivers dont drive loops (well some cases yes but not in any racing scenario)
Real drivers dont hit walls at 1000 trackmanias of speed and carry on driving with no detrimental effect to the car.
Real drivers dont use a keyboard/pad/stick
Real drivers dont have speed boosters on the road
Real drivers dont drive through their opponents
Real drivers dont drive f1 looking drift machines that go on dirt road or grass.
Real drivers dont play trackmania.

If i wanted real i would play a simulator game this is the point i play tm because its physics are heavily unreal and would never be able to get this kind of driving experience in real life.

I appreciate all your hard work on this game but this minor tweak has spoiled it for me and i think also you could have alienated alot of other potential customers from the beta is there any intention at all to bring back this cam or will it be like this forever?

TMarc · Post by **TMarc** » 09 May 2013, 13:44

I was speaking of real formula 3-2-1 drivers, and I added a smiley.

The beta was not there to "alienate" like you say, but to help to find issues and give feedback to Nadeo.
Stadium is not yet released, and with one of the next updates they will restore the missing camera, they said.
Hopefully they get it done this month.

spoons · Post by **spoons** » 09 May 2013, 14:01

TMarc wrote:I was speaking of real formula 3-2-1 drivers, and I added a smiley.

The beta was not there to "alienate" like you say, but to help to find issues and give feedback to Nadeo.
Stadium is not yet released, and with one of the next updates they will restore the missing camera, they said.
Hopefully they get it done this month.

I dont think you did it to alienate people i jsut think it was more of a biproduct.

But thank you for your reply and i await the next update

TMarc · Post by **TMarc** » 09 May 2013, 14:06

yeah, not to say collateral damage

I think Nadeo (I'm not part of the team) was surprised by the response of the "old" Stadium fans.

YouTube · Post by **eyebo** » 09 May 2013, 14:07

Can you link to the quote where someone from Nadeo says that the high fov cam2 will return in some form? I haven't read that anywhere. Granted, I'm a little behind in my reading on the forums lately.

TMarc · Post by **TMarc** » 09 May 2013, 14:30

In fact they intended to do it with the big update last month: http://forum.maniaplanet.com/viewtopic. ... 36#p157136, see at the bottom of Hylis post.
Perhaps they forgot to add it then, as it also happened with the Canyon boost bug.

Regarding the MT camera switch bug, there was no confirmation yet.

YouTube · Post by **eyebo** » 09 May 2013, 16:09

Are you referring to where he said "Fixed stadium camera 2", because that referred to changing the cam2 to match the cam2 from tmnf, which did happen with that update.

spoons · Post by **spoons** » 09 May 2013, 16:14

TMarc wrote:In fact they intended to do it with the big update last month: http://forum.maniaplanet.com/viewtopic. ... 36#p157136, see at the bottom of Hylis post.
Perhaps they forgot to add it then, as it also happened with the Canyon boost bug.
Regarding the MT camera switch bug, there was no confirmation yet.

Hmm as i read that "fixed camera 2" could that not mean they just put it back to the tmnf styled view?

This is ambiguous i think.

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