Elite title loses points by itself + Ladder suggestion

[gursk]

What really grinds my gears is losing ladder points in Elite mode. Do not misunderstand me, I get it, but still I hate it when it happens. Anyway, I started keeping track of my ups and downs (writing a graph like MP2 displayed) and i noticed a quite large loss of points during the night, 100/150 lp. This also happens when I join a server to spectate the match. Knowing that most of the players are casual players, and points are the fastest way to see improvements, I was thinking about "checkpoints" for high ranks, such as: once you reach ech 8.1 (.2 .3 etc...) you can't go below. This being said, people could win less points as they climb the ladder, instead of losing 40LP or more no matter what they do in the match.
Everybody wants to see their name going up the ladder, even if they tell themselves "it doesn't mean anything, points are not skills" and other lies (I speak for myself here but I'm sure you will agree)
Thank you.

[plopp]

I was thinking about "checkpoints" for high ranks, such as: once you reach ech 8.1 (.2 .3 etc...) you can't go below. This being said, people could win less points as they climb the ladder, instead of losing 40LP or more no matter what they do in the match.

This would make it more of leveling up than climbing a ladder. They would have to rework the whole matchmaking system and I feel that Nadeo wouldn't be too happy with that I do, however, feel that losing points over nothing is a bit frustrating, but it's the way the laddersystem works in this game to not have everybody at the top.

I would rather have ranked and unranked play. In ranked you have a ladder and you lose and win points in proportion to each other. In unranked you could gain levels and so on and maybe get something for leveling up (don't know what though)

[fleo]

Unranked play = server 70k and below. I don't think we need more than that. Imo this ladder system is quite good, you're about a progression system and not a rank system.

[plopp]

Unranked play = server 70k and below.

With this system there is no point to rank up beyond 70k lp (aka gold echelon). There is not much skill in ranking up, just grinding.

[sadzealot]

Imo this ladder system is quite good, you're about a progression system and not a rank system.

Really? You are aware that this system is a grinding system, right? Meaning that you just put in enough time and you reach the top.

Your "skill" (or positioning on a ranking system) should never be about gametime, but about how well you do when you play.

And that is why such a system like this is a massive failure, especially considering the autobalancing feature uses the ladder rank. It will never work ok then.

[fleo]

Really? You are aware that this system is a grinding system, right? Meaning that you just put in enough time and you reach the top.

No I am not, at my level (gold I) I win LP when I play well and I lose them otherwise. I believe this ladder system is mainly based on the number of won attacks, the laser hit ratio and the team result of the match (your team won or not). That's why you won't lose points every time you lose a match. Nadeo did this because they think you sometimes deserve LP even if you lose the match because you played well and I agree with that. It allows not to lose points when you played on MM with a lower skilled players than you.

I think they're still looking for improvements of this system. Do you have any suggestions?

[novationx]

I ALWAYS lose points when I lose... So I dont know what your saying mate
Also if I win a match with 16 rockets ( and no attacks ) I get 0 LP. Do you realise how hard it is to get 16 rockets?
These are just 2 examples of why this ladder system is not perfect at all.

[fleo]

Ok I'll try to check my first point. ^^'

I totally agree about your second point, I don't see why only attacks are taken in account.