The worlds First Tournament in Trackmania 2

[FrostBeule]

Hylis with Frostbeule it's like talking against a wall.

I completely agree to your statement and I also know that you have long enough experience for esport that you can make the right decision

but frostbeule will quote every sentence from you now and will find some idiot things, where nobody is interested in ( except maybe 10 people) something against...

waisting your time for 1 person, who is totally against Trackmania Canyon ( blabla... he's not against, he's just against esport ...) is useless. Your first statement for this person was enough, it would only make sence to make so many statements when like 50% of all gamers thinks like him, then it would make sence to discuss it...

If Frostbeule is against, then he shouldn't insult anybody ( community members or developers), I also don''t understand what's frostbeuls purpose? if he don't like what's going on, than he can leave this community and esport, nobody forced him to stay.

Hylis please just concentrate on Maniaplanet ( I love your support, but you don't need to answer at everything), that's now at the moment the most important thing in my opinion. ( okay some questions will come after the e3 expo presentation) , but right at the moment , I don't think that you have to make any statements here, because all questions can be answered by the community. (of course which are already known)

Sincerely,

Max ( that should be no offence to you Hylis or something)

it's not 1 community =) im not part of this community, im part of another community. and im not the only one who think the same as i. im just one of the few who writes down his opinion at a United forum. and like i already said, im not against TM2 or it being an esports game. stop putting words into my mouth, i'd appreciate it. now let's stop with the insults ok?

[hugocool]

Let me get this straight...

The first TM2 gameplay will be at dreamhack!?

That means i'll be able to play it!

I AM GOING TO PLAY TM2.

Problem, forum?

[Trackmaniack]

Well, you said it best yourself. You're -not- part of this community. You're part of the eSports community. Now, while that doesn't make your opinion any less valid, it does make you biased. You're worried that with the release of TM2, Nations will go into decline, yes? I'm not putting words in your mouth with that, am I? Now, that being said, look up again at my other posts, I'm not going to bother to repeat myself. But in short, TMN is geared towards eSport, TM2 is not. Sponsors are going to see that, they're not stupid, and they're not going to abandon TMN for TM2. Simple. Now let's end this.

[elitechris]

Come on people. Are you serious? All of us had to waste our time and nerves just becuase "A guy, who was complaining about eSports in TM2". 11 pages for one person? I am very curious if you would write 11 pages in 1,5 day if I wouldn't like the fact about eSports in TM2 and answer everyone while laughing at them.

@FrostBeule, if you have some intelligence, please stop doing this crap and finally shut up, cause, as you can see, there's more and more people who is sick about telling you the same thing over and over again.

[superfighterg]

right

[FrostBeule]

Come on people. Are you serious? All of us had to waste our time and nerves just becuase "A guy, who was complaining about TM2". 11 pages for one person? I am very curious if you would write 11 pages in 1,5 day if I wouldn't like the fact about eSports in TM2 and answer everyone to just laugh about them.

@FrostBeule, if you have some intelligence, please stop doing this crap and finally shut up, cause, as you can see, there's more and more people who is sick about telling you the same thing over and over again.

again, i am not against TM2. stop putting words into my mouth. im also getting tired of telling you the same thing over and over again. id suggest that you actually read the topic.

[elitechris]

So stop. Just stop.

[Trackmaniack]

Come on people. Are you serious? All of us had to waste our time and nerves just becuase "A guy, who was complaining about TM2". 11 pages for one person? I am very curious if you would write 11 pages in 1,5 day if I wouldn't like the fact about eSports in TM2 and answer everyone to just laugh about them.

@FrostBeule, if you have some intelligence, please stop doing this crap and finally shut up, cause, as you can see, there's more and more people who is sick about telling you the same thing over and over again.

again, i am not against TM2. stop putting words into my mouth. im also getting tired of telling you the same thing over and over again. id suggest that you actually read the topic.

Okay, Frost. Just because you won a few putsy tourneys and got some cash for it doesn't make you somebody with the right to come in here and lord your opinion over us like some god. It -certainly- doesn't give you the right to talk to Hylis the way you have been. Where exactly do you get off on -that-, if I can ask the great professional gamer Frostbeule? I dare you to add that to a resume anywhere in the real world, and see what kind of results you get. For the record, NO ONE said that you were against TM2. Not me, not chris, not WiiD, not TCQ, not Knutsel, not anybody. Only you, as if you feel you have to justify yourself in some way. Hmm, I wonder why that is? Is it because you realize you talked yourself into a corner? Because that's -exactly- what you've done. You've made such an ass of yourself, any position you take is indefensible now. Take my advice: when you stick your foot in your mouth as far as you have, it's proper etiquette to slink away with your tail between your legs and NOT POST for a few days or weeks until things cool down, not get louder and -louder- and LOUDER until people see things your way. You're actually quite lucky the TM-community is as forgiving as they are--if you would be trying this stunt on any other game's forum, you'd be perma-banned within a heartbeat. I have, for merely asking a QUESTION of the devs. You're outright insulting him and getting away with it. Now, go home, and rethink your life, Frost. It'll do us all a favor.

[elitechris]

+1

And FrostBeule, YOU SHOULD NOT respond to what wrote Trackmaniack. Not even DARE to do that.

Knuts, please close this topic, it's hopeless.

[ionian]

Wow guys, seriously? Why make this personal? I don't agree with all of Frostbuele's points but he has a right to raise them - I don't want to use the word fanboyism but please respect other peoples rights to say what they think, stop the rather personal attacks and show some of the Trackmania spirit that has made these games and this community worth being a part of over the past few years.

Sheesh.