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Re: SSM Protest | matchmaking servers shut down

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TheBigMiike wrote:Vous profitez de votre position de 1er à fournir les matchmakings Elite pour protester.
Il y a un truc que tu n'as pas l'air de saisir. Ce n'est pas une place de premier car les SSM sont les plus beaux, mais simplement car ce sont les seuls à aimer suffisamment le jeu pour avoir déboursé de l'argent tous ces mois pour louer les serveurs et avoir passé tant de temps à les maintenant à jour. C'est beaucoup leur demander je trouve, alors avec tout ce qu'ils apportent à la communauté je trouve que c'est bien leur droit fondamental que de déconnecter un serveur pendant 21h pour exprimer un mécontentement... Perso j'ai arrêté de louer mes serveurs il y a plus de six mois alors je les comprends hélas très bien. :?
TheBigMiike wrote:You take advantage of your situation of being the first to provide Elite matchmakings to protest.
There is one thing you should reconsider. They have the main MM server not because SSM are the prettiest but because they have spent money and time for months for renting and updating their servers. That's a lot of work for players. I think they earned this fundamental right by giving so much everything to the community. And disconnecting the server for 21h is not so much. I sadly understand them well because I stopped renting my server more than 6 months ago. :?
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Interesting reaction from Nadeo here again...
While I appreciate it that they open MM lobbies themselves I find it weird that this is their first move in this conflict.
Instead of giving us a little roadmap or actually try to fix the bugs they go ahead, open their own lobbies and the problem is fixed for them.
It's kind of sad, seeing how great the cooperation between nadeo and the players was at the alpha while nowadays it seems like nadeo gets too easily offended and do the contrary of what players want as a reaction.
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@fleo : I prefer answer by PM, it's better for me to explain why i'm thinking in my language.
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Joader wrote:Interesting reaction from Nadeo here again...
While I appreciate it that they open MM lobbies themselves I find it weird that this is their first move in this conflict.[...]
I don't see nothing weird or wrong. Also, I don't see this as a conflict either.
Joader wrote: [...]Instead of giving us a little roadmap or actually try to fix the bugs they go ahead, open their own lobbies and the problem is fixed for them.[...]
Which bugs do you mean? As SSM stated, they closed MM because of lack of players. Nadeo already said they are going to do univeral demo which will bring more players. What else do you want?
Joader wrote: [...]It's kind of sad, seeing how great the cooperation between nadeo and the players was at the alpha while nowadays it seems like nadeo gets too easily offended and do the contrary of what players want as a reaction.
What exactly do you, player, want as a reaction?
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TheBigMiike wrote:This is stupid! You are turning their own tool against them! They give you a right and you are turning this right against them !
It's a right for them to pay from their own pockets to do Nadeos job? The fact is, up until this point SSM's matchmaking servers were the only matchmaking servers. Nadeo seemed to want to wait until the demo was released (which in Nadeo time could be sometime next year) to release their own MM servers.

oliverde8 wrote:Just one thing that hurts us is that players used to like siege V1 which was great to play, there just was a few bugs and some adjustments to make and it would have made every one happy. It would allso have kept a number of players that liked and get even more players to play the game
+1. Siege just needed a few tweaks and what do Nadeo do? It's the "choose weapon as defender in elite" all over again.

The biggest thing Nadeo does wrong is that they, with almost every update, try to fix things that aren't broken and leave in the most broken things. This leaves us with a more broken game than before the update.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wz-PtEJEaqY
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if magnetik didnt do it, i would have, or certainly someone else.
I communicated before that the only reason i did not do elite lobbys is because the massivenes of ssm lobby servers already provided the capacity(monopoly) of that.

EDIT: Actually this may be the bases for the problem - changes will be to any mode, even my own mode changes a bit every month. Having the monopoly is also 100% effect on changes when it comes to players, just like the decision to strike flooded our siege server yesterday.
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novationx wrote:I support SSM :) Something has to change.
But the timing is bad. Maybe the demo will be awesome and all of this will be for nothing.

Anyways, ty Magnetik for the other servers. I'm gonna play there. Cya ^^
Moving with such an ease to another server isnt very supportive';)
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plopp wrote:
TheBigMiike wrote:This is stupid! You are turning their own tool against them! They give you a right and you are turning this right against them !
It's a right for them to pay from their own pockets to do Nadeos job? The fact is, up until this point SSM's matchmaking servers were the only matchmaking servers. Nadeo seemed to want to wait until the demo was released (which in Nadeo time could be sometime next year) to release their own MM servers.

oliverde8 wrote:Just one thing that hurts us is that players used to like siege V1 which was great to play, there just was a few bugs and some adjustments to make and it would have made every one happy. It would allso have kept a number of players that liked and get even more players to play the game
+1. Siege just needed a few tweaks and what do Nadeo do? It's the "choose weapon as defender in elite" all over again.

The biggest thing Nadeo does wrong is that they, with almost every update, try to fix things that aren't broken and leave in the most broken things. This leaves us with a more broken game than before the update.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wz-PtEJEaqY
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@weerwolf this topic isnt about me. I understand what you're saying, but I just wanna play ^^ je weet toch
The neverending waiting game has to stop.
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plopp wrote:
TheBigMiike wrote:This is stupid! You are turning their own tool against them! They give you a right and you are turning this right against them !
It's a right for them to pay from their own pockets to do Nadeos job? The fact is, up until this point SSM's matchmaking servers were the only matchmaking servers. Nadeo seemed to want to wait until the demo was released (which in Nadeo time could be sometime next year) to release their own MM servers.
Why do you think it's the job of Nadeo ? Nadeo just offers you the possibility to create a matchmaking, to put your own maps, to customize them. SSM aren't forced to create a matchmaking, they had the choice.
So you think that create a map is the job of Nadeo ? Because in others games, maps are created by devloppers so if i follow your idea. We are doing the job of Nadeo when we create a map.

When you create a server, you are doing the Nadeo job ? When you create a weapon, you are doing the Nadeo Job ?

I'm agree you are disappointed by somes features of the previous update but i just explained my opinion that's it.
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novationx wrote:@weerwolf this topic isnt about me. I understand what you're saying, but I just wanna play ^^ je weet toch
no no offcourse not, but well u know what i ment ^^ (no offence) and allthough i disagree with the decicion, i understand it too, and since players are the most effected - such a action would only be strong if supporting players would hold for a day too :) But that wasnt the case apperently with more players.
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