My vision and my opinion...

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Re: My vision and my opinion...

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TGYoshi wrote:
1) Make it F2P with item mall (now is standard, for great games. Without, you don't sell)
2) Make the server can be bought with money in the item mall (2,50€ / month)
3) Re-Enable the video decoder in game
4) Don't focus on ManiaLive (too low interest if players connected are 300 every day)
5) Sell new ENV into the item mall for lower price Ex.: 5€
6) Casual players don't mind of great sponsored tournament, they wanna play with a "mountain" of challengers.
1) ..... a sudden change to F2P? Item mall? Use your brains! An item mall for TM? >_>. And most F2P games are simple: P2W (Pay to win). It just doesn't work for a game like TM.
2) ..? We host servers ourself, why do we need to buy them?
3) No idea what it is.
4) It's rare to see you make a good point, but I totally agree here.
5) .. no, it's clear they get sold for 20 eur/each now.
6) ??????

I'll never understand you.
1) Not pay to win, Nadeo must use brain to find what to sell in the item mall, changing totally the ladder.
2) So all empty servers will disappear. Only who care of his server will really buy every month (like me). Other admins get the server and abandon it.
3) The Vorbis Video decoder ingame.
4) Thx.
5) Selling in an item mall is more easy, cause the game is free and all can see it. Now nobody know of TM2 and Nadeo.
6) Casual players are casual players. Mountain of players = Servers full 200 players at least. If the ladder was different (and i have an idea of it) the game could become great. No difference between servers ladders (no beginner, no pro, no nothing....)

Sorry for my english, and i like to do examples ahahah.
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Re: My vision and my opinion...

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It's real: Noone in the world knows this game.
Seriously, if I wouldn't accidentally and randomly have come to TMNF, I would never have known this game.
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AlexKF wrote:2) Haha great news! http://forum.maniaplanet.com/viewtopic.php?f=331&t=8651 (ManiaHost)
That's finally a nice idea. Love it.
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HaagseSmurf wrote: Then its time for Ubi to wake up, and tell the world about Maniaplanet :D
Agree, advertise, make a demo with full acces for say, 1 week or so, so people can taste the fun with TM2
Advertise, advertise and advertise.
Come on Ubi / Nadeo
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Re: My vision and my opinion...

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Alex sorry, but the new way they decided with ManiaHost will close all TPS servers.
Bad news for us.
I see the file is 130Mb and sure is a plugin only for ManiaLive.
I will give it a try, but the idea is good but bad applyed.

EDIT : I'm waiting the answer on the other post to understand what is this new script.
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Sorry, Farfa explained me how it work.
Forget my last post. Is it a control panel that server renters offer to clients to launch their TM servers in a few steps.
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When I saw talking about F2P, I thought about TMNF.
Nations is the "F2P version" of the United (correct me if I'm wrong).
How TrackMania 2 Canyon is similar to TMUF (too much), the Nadeo could offer free accounts for TM2.
TMNF Players can not buy in Manialinks (but can access them), limit of 5 tracks online (the famous Freezone), etc..
Why not use the same system in TM2? I believe that the network Maniaplanet is perfectly compatible with that system.
For the player to enjoy all the features without limitations, just buy the paid version. The Nadeo not lose money and still makes millions of players.
I believe this system is feasible. If not, today we would not have United.
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I agree with you Matheus.

The good thing about F2P is that you are guarenteed many players (especially in this case as Nadeo already have a platform on which to launch games from). So if Canyon was free we could expect another 2 - 3 million players by now, and all you need to make a profit from that is have only 5% of those 2 million players to buy/pay for something to have 100k players paying something. 100'000 x 20 euro = 2'000'000 euro. Better... no? Not to mention an extra 1.5 million players on the game = bigger community = more of a chance for them to buy.

ALL of this with just 5% of people buying... imagine if it were more...
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Well, this is all right but FreeZone has a lack point...
FreeZone is a good solution only if the other ENV are better than the free one.
In TMUF the best ENV was Stadium, and players gone because they locked on the best env.
To have success with FreeZone Nadeo need to do a free base ENV and to develope more ENV (to be bought) better than the first.
Only in this way another FreeZone can be ok.
In the same time FreeZone become useless, cause the solution they had in the past, Stadium totally free and the other under payement is the same.
The problem is just to decide which one ENV must be free.
But those are only ideas. ;)
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